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Old 06-18-2007, 09:50 AM     Post subject: TPTK vs maniac #1 (permalink)  
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Villian is 39/8, is best play here to just drop to the raise on the flop, c/f the turn or repping the made flush on the turn as played?

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saw flop|saw showdown

CO ($65.30)
Button ($4.30)
SB ($43.50)
BB ($49.25)
UTG ($65)
UTG+1 ($100.35)
MP1 ($45.65)
Hero ($33.50)
MP3 ($44.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, K.
3 folds, Hero raises to $1.5, MP3 calls $1.50, 4 folds.

Flop: ($3.75) A, 4, 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.5, MP3 raises to $7.5, Hero raises to $23, MP3 calls $13.

Turn: ($47.25) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $11, MP3 raises to $22.5 (All-In), Hero calls $0.50 (All-In).

River: ($81.25) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $81.25

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Old 06-18-2007, 02:17 PM #2 (permalink)  
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um 39/8 IS NOT A MANIAC!!!!!!!!! AHHHH

ok i got that out, so lets work.

39/8 is a loose semi-passive. Really the number that we need most is vils AF.

Pf i dont lke the 150 raise eaither limp or make it 2-2.25. Also the flop bet is waaay light considring the draws. if your opp has a lower ace hes calling a pot size bet and in turn getting taken to value town. if he's drawing, your giving him way to good of a price.
then he raises you flop bet and YOU BLOAT THE POT WITH ONE PAIR....

bad bad bad. you do not have a monster, you have a hand you'd like to show down(on the flop).
If you really this he has the draw then shove, he might even call with AQ AJ AT . I do that to fish with tptk somtimes becaus they will call with the fl draw.

When the dimond hits the turn you have to lead but i fold to the reraise.
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Old 06-18-2007, 05:44 PM #3 (permalink)  
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With only 60BB behind I'm happy to get it all in here, so I would just push over his flop raise. Not sure why you left $11 behind, your 3 bet clearly commits you to the pot.

On a dryer board I'd consider just calling his flop raise and pushing over his turn bet, but I don't really want to offer a loose player free cards on this board.
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:14 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Pf i dont lke the 150 raise eaither limp or make it 2-2.25
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1. Dont raise more then 3x bb, 2.5-3.x even mini raising somtimes. Do this from position with Playable hands wheather they are marginal or monster dont raise more then 3x (givin your first in) we dont want to give our oppents info on what we have so we keep our raises consistant. IN EP be more prone to open limp and fod marginal hands to raises.
Other than that I agree and my thinking here was that I was going to fold to any playback on the flop or then c/f or c/c the turn depending on what it was with this guy but when he raised me on the flop I put him on the draw and figured my reraise would price him out (agree, should have been just a push to rep at least the Ad).

Butchered the hand, but he showed down 87d so he couldnt have figured he was ahead of me really could he?
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Old 06-19-2007, 03:28 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Pf i dont lke the 150 raise eaither limp or make it 2-2.25.
Dude, you should really read the thread entitled "small ball" in the beginners forum. This guy preaches by the 2.5-3xbb rule. You should go tell him whats up.
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