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renegaderob1
Old 10-29-2005, 11:15 AM     Post subject: TPTK - fair draw, large pot, lots of callers; your play? #1 (permalink)  
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SB ($46.20)
BB ($54.45)
Hero ($22.75)
MP ($24.50)
CO ($49.32)
Button ($27.43)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T, A. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
Hero calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, Button calls $0.25, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1.50) 3, 2, T (6 players)
SB checks, BB bets $0.5, Hero raises to $1.7, MP calls $1.70, CO calls $1.70, Button folds, SB folds, BB raises to $2.9, Hero raises to $5, MP calls $3.30, CO calls $3.30, BB calls $2.10.

Turn: ($21.50) 4 (4 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6, MP calls $6, CO calls $6, BB calls $6.

River: ($45.50) 6 (4 players)
BB checks, MP folds, CO calls $11.50, BB folds.

Final Pot: $57

No reads as I was new to the table;
I put one on a straight draw, one on a flush draw. Didn't think anyone had the set... my turn play is pretty weak; problem is that a 3/4 pot bet puts me all in...I guess I did have a fair few outs though (assuming they were clean, I had 5s, As and Ts)... is a push good here?

What do you put CO on and what is your play on turn/river (and why?)?
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Old 10-30-2005, 01:22 AM #2 (permalink)  
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straight and flush draws out there, im looking for reasons to drop TPTK here with that many players in the pot..
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Old 10-30-2005, 01:52 AM #3 (permalink)  
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id drop it as soon as u get ur RERAISE, RERAISED!!! tptk aint no good.
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Old 10-30-2005, 11:16 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Turns out TPTK was good to the river... then CO hit 2 pair (3,6)...
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Old 10-30-2005, 02:04 PM     Post subject: Re: TPTK - fair draw, large pot, lots of callers; your play? #6 (permalink)  
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Hero is UTG with T, A. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
Hero calls $0.25, ...
ick, pretty much game over right about here. you get in with a mediocre hand and so will a bunch of othes. Bound to be a nail-biter.

ATo sux UTG. Actually, in NL ring it sux almost everywhere.
Therefore: RAISE!!!
If you meet any resistance your Ace is dominated but you might luck into a T-high flop, as here, in which case you're in good shape.
RAISE! and chant to yourself "I'm bluffing! My hand sucks!"
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Old 10-30-2005, 10:49 PM #7 (permalink)  

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drop the hammer on the flop to weed out the fish - if you get raised then maybe consider set and fold ...

do u really think someone with 3,6 would have called u down to the river if you would have bet hard?
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Old 10-31-2005, 12:12 AM #8 (permalink)  
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this is a textbook example of why if you are going to play a hand...you RAISE....3/6 wouldnt have even been in that pot if you had raised it up
...I reraised to $5 in a $1.5 pot (in fact, I reraised twice...). I have no idea why 36 stayed in the pot, maybe he was hoping for trips??
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Old 10-31-2005, 12:15 AM     Post subject: Re: TPTK - fair draw, large pot, lots of callers; your play? #9 (permalink)  
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Hero is UTG with T, A. SB posts a blind of $0.10.
Hero calls $0.25, ...
ick, pretty much game over right about here. you get in with a mediocre hand and so will a bunch of othes. Bound to be a nail-biter.

ATo sux UTG. Actually, in NL ring it sux almost everywhere.
Therefore: RAISE!!!
If you meet any resistance your Ace is dominated but you might luck into a T-high flop, as here, in which case you're in good shape.
RAISE! and chant to yourself "I'm bluffing! My hand sucks!"
Duly noted. Ty
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Old 10-31-2005, 03:09 AM #10 (permalink)  
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After turn the pot is ~$21, $5 bet is a meaninless bet at this stage. Against 4 callers I dont see how a single pair is going to win this pot, I would personally check, but your only options at this point are all in or check, $5 is garunteed to be sucked out against so many players.
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Old 10-31-2005, 12:53 PM #11 (permalink)  
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All the above is correct. This was a terrible hand and one you really, really need to learn from.
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