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Dislexsik
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06-30-2006, 04:20 PM
Post subject: TPMK,how did i play this?
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No reads on villain.I put him on a flushdraw.
Good?
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
Hero ($49.75)
CO ($48.75)
Button ($3.95)
SB ($63.05)
BB ($60.45)
UTG ($96.15)
UTG+1 ($51.85)
UTG+2 ($40.85)
MP1 ($47.15)
MP2 ($49.25)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K , T . SB posts a blind of $0.25.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50, 3 folds, BB checks.
Flop: ($1.75) 8 , K , 4 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets $1, Hero raises to $3, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $2.
Turn: ($7.75) A (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $4, UTG+1 calls $4.
River: ($15.75) 4 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.
Final Pot: $15.75
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biondino
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I agree it looks like a flush draw - so why no river value bet?
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Dislexsik
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Good question,i have no idea.
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givememyleg
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WHO YA GONNA CALL?!??
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I don't like a value bet here on the river, what worse hands are going to call you?
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Without reads on villain, what makes this seem like a flush draw? Most unknowns dont lead and call a raise with a flush draw, you will see a check/call a lot. I wouldnt really be surprised to see a KJ or KQ here. If you are playing KTs I dont think you should be playing it for TP value, you are playing it more for straights or flushes and the times you can pick up an unwanted pot.
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bode
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i agree with andy on this. i think we see a KJ or KQ here way more often than a flush draw. I would like to see a value bet on the river here.
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KoRnholio
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Originally Posted by biondino
I agree it looks like a flush draw - so why no river value bet?
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Exactly the reason that it's likely a missed flush draw If we bet and he has a busted flush, he folds (or possibly check-raise bluffs us out), if he has any better hand, he calls. A bet here puts us in a lose-lose situation. A free showdown is a much better play.
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Dislexsik
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Originally Posted by KoRnholio
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Originally Posted by biondino
I agree it looks like a flush draw - so why no river value bet?
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Exactly the reason that it's likely a missed flush draw  If we bet and he has a busted flush, he folds (or possibly check-raise bluffs us out), if he has any better hand, he calls. A bet here puts us in a lose-lose situation. A free showdown is a much better play.
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That was pretty much what my mind was telling me in that hand.lol.
So i played this hand well?Or could i played it in a different way?
Im not that good in playing hands like this so any advice is welcome.
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KoRnholio
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edit: I'm dumb.
I agree that this could be KJ/KQ, but I don't think there's much value in betting this river, since we'll only get called if it's a split or if we're behind Ax. Sure sometimes we might get him to lay down Kx, but I don't think it's worth a bet.
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zook
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I check behind the turn. I see no reason to build this pot after the flop, especially when the A falls on the turn. If he bets the river for 1/2 pot or less, I might call, but it's read-dependent. I don't stress about letting this go after he calls my flop raise. As played I check behind the river.
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