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Renton
Old 07-09-2006, 04:38 AM     Post subject: Tough hands for review. #1 (permalink)  
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 I just had a really bad session of 2k hands of 200nl full ring where I dropped 3 buyins. I ran about a 16/10 game and felt like I played pretty well. Here's all the hands that made me think a little.

Hand 1: Villain is unknown. Is pushing the flop the best line, or is it better to get all in on the turn?

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MP2 ($38)
MP3 ($17.15)
Hero ($200)
Button ($419.83)
SB ($147.75)
BB ($635.15)
UTG ($200)
UTG+1 ($204.28)
UTG+2 ($105.54)
MP1 ($239)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K, K. SB posts a blind of $1.
3 folds, MP1 raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $16, 1 fold, SB (poster) calls $15, 1 fold, MP1 folds.

Flop: ($38) 8, 5, 7 (2 players)
SB bets $30.83, Hero calls $184 (All-In).

Final Pot: $252.83





Hand 2: Villain is loose and passive.

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BB ($178.80)
UTG ($181.29)
UTG+1 ($589.32)
UTG+2 ($241.12)
MP1 ($68.20)
MP2 ($198)
MP3 ($30.24)
CO ($136.16)
Hero ($292.25)
SB ($214.50)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T, J. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, 5 folds, CO calls $2, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, BB checks.

Flop: ($9) J, A, T (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero bets $7, BB folds, UTG raises to $20, CO folds, Hero calls $13.

Turn: ($49) 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($49) 2 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $52.

Final Pot: $101





Hand 3: Villain is somewhat loose and aggressive.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Button ($56.20)
SB ($16.90)
Hero ($352.75)
UTG ($388.48)
UTG+1 ($200)
MP1 ($653.85)
MP2 ($193)
MP3 ($432.33)
CO ($84.54)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, K. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG raises to $4, 7 folds, Hero raises to $14, UTG calls $12.

Flop: ($33) Q, Q, 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $20, UTG calls $20.

Turn: ($73) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $35, Hero raises to $107.

Final Pot: $215





Hand 4: Villain is loose and passive.

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BB ($99.35)
UTG ($170.85)
UTG+1 ($53.50)
UTG+2 ($257.45)
MP1 ($207.47)
MP2 ($186.05)
Hero ($290.10)
CO ($189.30)
Button ($196)
SB ($96)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K, K. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $4, UTG+2 calls $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $16, 4 folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $12.

Flop: ($39) 4, 3, 9 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $20.42, Hero calls $20.42.

Turn: ($79.84) 9 (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $25, Hero calls $25.

River: ($129.84) J (2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $75.

Final Pot: $204.84






Hand 5: Villain is loose and passive for a small sample. I overbet the river so I'd get a call from a suspicious player with a flush or a lesser boat.

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MP3 ($40)
CO ($112.75)
Button ($237.03)
SB ($205.30)
BB ($276.59)
UTG ($233.57)
Hero ($214.70)
UTG+2 ($219.70)
MP1 ($76.63)
MP2 ($52.52)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K, A. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, Hero raises to $7, UTG+2 calls $7, 3 folds, Button calls $7, 2 folds.

Flop: ($24) 2, A, 2 (4 players)
Hero bets $16, UTG+2 calls $16, Button folds.

Turn: ($56) 8 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks.

River: ($56) 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $75, UTG+2 calls $196.70 (All-In), Hero calls $116.70 (All-In).

Final Pot: $444.40



Hand 6: Villain is loose and passive. Note that he only has 130 dollars.


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UTG ($198)
UTG+1 ($253.29)
Hero ($200)
MP1 ($143.50)
MP2 ($292.85)
MP3 ($206.75)
CO ($155.51)
Button ($65.40)
SB ($129.22)
BB ($202.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q, Q. SB posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, Hero raises to $7, 5 folds, SB (poster) calls $6, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($21) 7, 3, 2 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $17, SB raises to $39, BB folds, Hero calls $176 (All-In).

Final Pot: $253



Hand 7: Villain is loose and passive. I feel like I pitched this hand too late. Please suggest a better line.

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UTG ($158.95)
UTG+1 ($242)
UTG+2 ($204.85)
MP1 ($238.98)
MP2 ($203.25)
MP3 ($364.40)
Hero ($322.52)
Button ($204)
SB ($174)
BB ($196)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, K. SB posts a blind of $1.
3 folds, MP1 calls $2, 1 fold, MP3 calls $2, Hero raises to $11, 3 folds, MP1 calls $9, MP3 calls $9.

Flop: ($36) Q, 5, 7 (3 players)
MP1 bets $15, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $60, MP1 calls $45.

Turn: ($156) 4 (2 players)
MP1 bets $30, Hero calls $30.

River: ($216) J (2 players)
MP1 bets $50, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $266


Hand 8: Villain is extremely loose and aggressive (70/20). I am lost here.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (10 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

Hero ($268.50)
UTG ($439.25)
UTG+1 ($122.60)
UTG+2 ($201.50)
MP1 ($254.23)
MP2 ($46)
MP3 ($200)
CO ($218.29)
Button ($210.50)
SB ($169)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T, 7. SB posts a blind of $1.
3 folds, MP1 calls $2, 2 folds, CO calls $2, 1 fold, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($8) T, 7, 8 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, MP1 folds, CO raises to $20, SB folds, Hero calls $15.

Turn: ($48) K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $20, Hero calls $20.

River: ($88) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $45, CO raises to $90, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $223
Beelzeboz0 folds.


Hand 9: Villain is tight and passive. I just didn't understand how he could have connected with this board given the action.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP1 ($201)
MP2 ($294.04)
Hero ($218.30)
Button ($192.05)
SB ($69.65)
BB ($200)
UTG ($166.35)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, T. SB posts a blind of $1.
UTG calls $2, 2 folds, Hero raises to $9, 3 folds, UTG calls $7.

Flop: ($21) Q, K, A (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $13, UTG raises to $26, Hero raises to $72, UTG calls $46.

Turn: ($165) 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($165) 5 (2 players)
UTG calls $85.35 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $250.35


Hand 10: Both villains are ok taggs. Is there any value in raising the flop here? I had missed every flop with AK tonight and the one flop i hit hard, both villains flopped sets

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UTG ($155.52)
UTG+1 ($320.90)
MP1 ($202)
MP2 ($235.60)
Hero ($199)
CO ($186.18)
Button ($213.47)
SB ($440.30)
BB ($189.32)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K, A. SB posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, MP1 calls $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, SB (poster) calls $8, 1 fold, MP1 calls $7.

Flop: ($29) 7, A, 6 (3 players)
SB bets $20, MP1 calls $20, Hero raises to $70, SB calls $411.30 (All-In), MP1 calls $173 (All-In), Hero folds.

Final Pot: $723.30
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Old 07-09-2006, 05:54 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 hand 1 (KK): Against an unknown, I just push this flop. I think I'm good here most of the time and there are a -lot- of cards I don't want to see.

hand 2 (JTo): This is kind of weak, but against a passive player I'd consider just mucking on the flop. When I think of passive players I usually think that raises like this beat the obvious 1 pair type hands, and if his hand beats those, they beat you. I don'th ate the way it was played if you think you are ahead of a decent amount of his range on the flop, but I'd probably chill with the river bet. Maybe $35, unless he's bad enough to call with just a pair of aces?

hand 3 (AKo): Meh, I dunno, looks like total spew. Maybe make it more to put real pressure on the guy's stack, but I think firing a second barrell is better in this spot because it's so much cheaper. I don't see the shame in check/folding here either.

hand 4 (KK): I like raising this flop. Given that you called, I kind of like how the turn and river are played. River is thin, but good IMO.

hand 5 (AKo): I dunno, I'd probably bet the turn. But I don't dislike a check with the intention of calling with TPTK and the nut redraw. River is really transparent, but possibly good if villain is really bad. Obvious call on the end. If he shows a 2 or a very oddly played AA, meh.

hand 6 (QQ): I'd play it the same.

hand 7 (KQo): Odd situation, I tend to just call on the flop in spots like this, but the lead is weak and I'm afraid he might be trying to price his draw with some fold equity to boot. I think it's played ok, although it sucks to lose half a stack with TPGK without even seeing showdown. I'm going to think about this one some more.

hand 8 (T7o): I think flop and turn are OK, although I'd probably just check the river and see what he does, planning on folding to any meaningful bet. I don't really like your donk lead, and that has nothing to do with getting gay-raised on the end.

hand 9 (QTo): total spew on the flop. Don't auto-assume that limp/call from a tight player means a small pair. Your hand sucks, just fold to the c/r. If you can't bring yourself to fold, then call, and fold to any sort of a meaningful bet when he makes it.

Hand 10 (AKo): Really depends on what I thought SB was leading with. I think there is a lot of merit to just calling here and seeeing what these 2 clowns do on the turn, but I don't hate how you played it either. Seems like a real easy muck to the double all-in.
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10 hands in one freaking thread?!

eff that

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Old 07-09-2006, 02:13 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 what do you beat on the river in hand 2 that villain is going to fld from UTG?
I think AJ/AT KQ are all in the range here, although i cant see a pair and gutshot perhaps raising here. I dont see a lot of value in betting the river because unless opp folds i dont see what we beat.
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I doubt I can offer you much useful advice, but I'll comment of a few hands and ask some questions...

1. (KK) Is this re-raise size standard for you? Seems like you're giving pretty good implied odds to a small pp, esp. if you often push a flop like this. Do you push against a full-stack too?

7. (KQo) Interesting hand. I think that once he calls your flop raise you should probably be done, but that weak $30 turn bet makes it hard to toss.

8. (T7o) He's aggressive... you don't think you have him beat 1/5 of the time here? I'm tempted to call the river. Check/call might be better?
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