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Old 08-09-2007, 07:34 AM     Post subject: Tough 100NL FR hands day 2... #1 (permalink)  
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Hand 1.

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CO ($103.25)
Hero ($101.05)
SB ($100.55)
BB ($158.20)
UTG ($100)
UTG+1 ($116.75)
MP1 ($56.95)
MP2 ($139.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[], Q[].
3 folds, MP2 calls $1, CO raises to $3, Hero calls $3, 2 folds, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($8.50) J[], 5[], Q[] (2 players)
CO bets $3, Hero raises to $10, CO calls $7.

Turn: ($28.50) 6[] (2 players)
CO bets $7, Hero raises to $22, CO calls $15.

River: ($72.50) 6[] (2 players)
CO bets $68.25 (All-In), Hero calls $66.05 (All-In).

Final Pot: $206.80

Hand 2

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BB ($264)
UTG ($159.50)
UTG+1 ($60.30)
Hero ($100.90)
MP2 ($115.90)
CO ($115.60)
Button ($38.90)
SB ($140.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[], A[].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls $6.

Flop: ($19.50) 7[], 4[], A[] (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $14, UTG+1 raises to $28, Hero raises to $91.9, UTG+1 calls $23.30 (All-In).

Turn: ($162.70) 6[] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($162.70) Q[] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $162.70

Hand 3

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BB ($102.15)
UTG ($207.05)
UTG+1 ($102.50)
MP1 ($56.40)
MP2 ($65.45)
Hero ($100)
Button ($100)
SB ($119.90)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[], K[].
2 folds, MP1 raises to $3, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, 3 folds, MP1 calls $7.

Flop: ($21.50) Q[], K[], Q[] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $18, MP1 calls $18.

Turn: ($57.50) 3[] (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $30, MP1 calls $28.40 (All-In).

River: ($115.90) 7[] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $115.90


Those two are gross but should I get away at any point?

Hand 4

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Hero ($99.20)
Button ($37)
SB ($60.10)
BB ($110.30)
UTG ($16)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 3[], 3[].
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) 3[], 7[], T[] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6, BB calls $6.

Turn: ($20.50) 8[] (2 players)
BB bets $15, Hero calls $15.

River: ($50.50) 5[] (2 players)
BB bets $30, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $80.50
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Old 08-09-2007, 08:44 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Do you pay attention to your opponents or do you use the force to make difficult decisions?

Hand 1: Heavily read dependent.
Hand 2: Standard.
Hand 3: Standard.
Hand 4: I'd love to raise that turn, but I think with money that deep you pretty much have to play it like that.
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Old 08-09-2007, 01:13 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Do you pay attention to your opponents or do you use the force to make difficult decisions?

Hand 1: Heavily read dependent.
Hand 2: Standard.
Hand 3: Standard.
Hand 4: I'd love to raise that turn, but I think with money that deep you pretty much have to play it like that.
Fnord, why is a raise on the turn not the ideal play in hand 4? The bet from villain (depending on reads off reads) is rarely a flush ... shouldn't we play for stacks here on the turn?
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Old 08-09-2007, 05:46 PM #4 (permalink)  
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In hand one, I only have about 150 hands logged with villain. Hes running at 35/14/1.02. I havent seen anything to out of the ordinary since we've played.
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:07 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 1. The guy doesnt know how to play so ill pay him off. I dont like this, but i cant think of a better way to play. He shows up with QJ?

2. Nh,

3. I hceck this flop as its easy to call down and you only improve with a king anyway.

4. dargsghsghsg. Are we good enough to raise the turn as fnord says. Only problem is he might not chase it down then.
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Old 08-09-2007, 09:25 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 hes got KK.
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Old 08-09-2007, 10:11 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 hes got KK.
That was exactly what I put him on. The hand is heavily read dependent. QJ doesn't play it like that. The push on the river screams that he has TPTK beat. KK-AA actually fit.
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:15 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 You have to fold hand 1 without reads. This screams QJ/KK/AA/55 dying for a call.
Hand 2 is standard
With half-stacks, I play hand 3 like this most of the time.
Hand 4 is fine.
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:37 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 hes got KK.
i missed we werent the aggressor preflop here. Yeah you need to fold turn to his action
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:55 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Ive got a couple more hands from tonight...

Hand 5

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MP1 ($22.50)
MP2 ($112.90)
CO ($48.80)
Button ($85.35)
Hero ($102.75)
BB ($15.35)
UTG ($80.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[], 9[].
1 fold, MP1 calls $1, 2 folds, Button calls $1, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($4) 5[], 4[], 4[] (4 players)
Hero bets $3, BB folds, MP1 calls $3, Button folds.

Turn: ($10) 8[] (2 players)
Hero bets $7, MP1 raises to $15, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $32

no reads really, 16 hands hes 62/36

Hand 6

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SB ($82.55)
BB ($100)
UTG ($68.90)
UTG+1 ($63.35)
MP1 ($66.80)
Hero ($100)
CO ($93.80)
Button ($43.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[], Q[].
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, Button raises to $9, SB calls $8.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $5.

Flop: ($28) 7[], 8[], J[] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $34.9 (All-In), SB folds, Hero calls $34.90.

Turn: ($97.80) 8[] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($97.80) 5[] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $97.80

He is 22/4 in 179 hands

Hand 7

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BB ($64.25)
UTG ($64.65)
MP ($39.25)
CO ($51.50)
Hero ($120.30)
SB ($42.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[], K[].
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($9) 4[], 3[], K[] (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero raises to $15, SB calls $10.

Turn: ($39) 9[] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24, SB calls $23.40 (All-In).

River: ($86.40) 2[] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $86.40

Im a little lost on the turn... is this ok?

Thanks for the input too, I think this is really helping my game
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Old 08-10-2007, 12:33 PM #11 (permalink)  
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 5. is not a fold IMO.
6. Is a fold, you dont beat anything but AK and he raises 4% of hands. Eugh i think its a spew.
7. you think he has tp or a draw? Otherwise id stick this in 75% of the time as a rule versus this guy/stack
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Old 08-10-2007, 01:55 PM #12 (permalink)  
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 Hand1:
I like to 3-bet this on the button.
Flop is fine
Turn raise sucks. I like a flat call because it's cheap, but a raise is fine if you raise enough. pot is $39 and he has to call $15 more? wtf?
As played fold river without reads.

Hand 2:
Preflop good
Flop seems good. I played this exact hand and ran into AA on monday though!

Hand 3:
Seems fine against short stack. If he has a Q spiking a K on river would be your best bet,

Hand 4:
Preflop good
Pot the flop.
You need some reads for the turn here.
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Old 08-10-2007, 02:02 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Ive got a couple more hands from tonight...

Hand 5

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MP1 ($22.50)
MP2 ($112.90)
CO ($48.80)
Button ($85.35)
Hero ($102.75)
BB ($15.35)
UTG ($80.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9[], 9[].
1 fold, MP1 calls $1, 2 folds, Button calls $1, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($4) 5[], 4[], 4[] (4 players)
Hero bets $3, BB folds, MP1 calls $3, Button folds.

Turn: ($10) 8[] (2 players)
Hero bets $7, MP1 raises to $15, Hero folds.
I call and probably check/call most rivers
Final Pot: $32

no reads really, 16 hands hes 62/36

Hand 6

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SB ($82.55)
BB ($100)
UTG ($68.90)
UTG+1 ($63.35)
MP1 ($66.80)
Hero ($100)
CO ($93.80)
Button ($43.90)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[], Q[].
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, Button raises to $9, SB calls $8.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $5.

Against short Lagg I 4bet shove this

Flop: ($28) 7[], 8[], J[] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $34.9 (All-In), SB folds, Hero calls $34.90.

Turn: ($97.80) 8[] (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($97.80) 5[] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $97.80

He is 22/4 in 179 hands

Hand 7

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BB ($64.25)
UTG ($64.65)
MP ($39.25)
CO ($51.50)
Hero ($120.30)
SB ($42.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[], K[].
3 folds, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($9) 4[], 3[], K[] (2 players)
SB bets $5, Hero raises to $15, SB calls $10.

Turn: ($39) 9[] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24, SB calls $23.40 (All-In).

Not sure I like this because he folds a lot of hands we beat. Checking behind and calling the river may make more when he doesnt have the flush

River: ($86.40) 2[] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $86.40

Im a little lost on the turn... is this ok?

Thanks for the input too, I think this is really helping my game
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Old 08-10-2007, 02:04 PM #14 (permalink)  
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 wait a minute. Which hand has the rock and which has the Lagg? My suggestions are not right if the rock has 3-bet your QQ pre. Thought it was the lagg.
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 One thing i noticed looking at the HH's is that in many of these hands you aren't raising enough on the flop.
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