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Robert

08-22-2005, 09:14 PM Post subject: Toptwopair and possible flush - weak fold?

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am i weak to fold the river? I thought he caught the flush or was slowplaying a straight
Got pretty pissed when he folded and showed me his ace high

***** Hand History for Game 2578647163 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, August 22, 14:55:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 36688 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: bluffboy200 ( $32.20 )
Seat 5: MR_Six ( $23.80 )
Seat 1: See_U_At_Rvr ( $25.20 )
Seat 10: Zeppelin696 ( $19.30 )
Seat 9: JRWJR111 ( $24.90 )
Seat 6: sa354 ( $23.65 )
Seat 7: hobbesmind ( $11.15 )
Seat 8: ollietom ( $46.41 )
Seat 4: adam558677 ( $24.75 )
bluffboy200 posts small blind [$0.10].
adam558677 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to bluffboy200 [ Jd Kc ]
MR_Six folds.
sa354 calls [$0.25].
hobbesmind folds.
ollietom calls [$0.25].
JRWJR111 calls [$0.25].
Zeppelin696 folds.
See_U_At_Rvr folds.
bluffboy200 calls [$0.15].
adam558677 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, Js, Ks ]
bluffboy200 bets [$0.70].
adam558677 folds.
sa354 folds.
ollietom folds.
See_U_At_Rvr: his name says it all
phg2637 has joined the table.
JRWJR111 has been reconnected and has 14 seconds to act.
JRWJR111 has been reconnected and has 14 seconds to act.
JRWJR111 calls [$0.70].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]
bluffboy200 bets [$1.50].
go all in on the bluff boy
>You have options at Table 36664 Table!.
that will teach him a lesson
JRWJR111 raises [$3].
bluffboy200 calls [$1.50].
** Dealing River ** [ 2h ]
bluffboy200 checks.
JRWJR111 bets [$4].
bluffboy200 folds.
JRWJR111 shows [ As, 3d ] high card ace.
JRWJR111 wins $12.25 from the main pot with high card ace.
>You have options at Table 36838 Table!.

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EricE

08-22-2005, 09:41 PM

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I’d say he had a read on you. He reps the flush but you don’t fold. He fires again on the river…only way he can do that is if he believes there is a good chance you will still fold. Great read by him. He reads you as weak or holding nothing. He shows so that means he reads you as weak.

You might try calling down the next 5 flushes that show (that are fairly cheap like this one). You will find people have them much less often than you think.

Stakes: Playing $0.10/$0.25 NL

Rondavu

08-23-2005, 05:50 PM

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Nothing you could do. You got served. His river bet was the perfect amount to make you fold. Small enough to be value, and barely too large for a crying call. Excellent play by your opponent. Sometimes I'll min bet the river here to discourage a bluff.

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Galapogos

08-23-2005, 06:07 PM

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You're not weak here, you played it well, he just made good use of the cards in play. Looks like he was initially hoping a Q would fall and give him a straight. Third spade shows up and he thinks hey I have ace of spades lets see if he fears that might have hit nut high flush, so he re-raises you on the turn. Then the check on the river tells him everything he wants to know and he shoves you out.

You didn't do anything wrong here. How do you know he didn't hit a straight or flush? He played it all the same way he would have played as if he had hit with As4s. You folded a measly two pair on a board that had straight and flush possibilities.

Maybe another bet on the river would have prevented him from bluffing but it also looks like there was some chatter on the table labling you as a bluffer so I wouldn't risk it. Unless they were just making a joke about your name but still, check/fold on the river is about all you can do without some super accurate read on this guy.

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