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zaaaaaak
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05-27-2006, 06:01 AM
Post subject: Top two in a raised pot, LOTS of action
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What is your move here?
***** Hand History for Game 4366719943 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, May 26, 15:08:29 ET 2006
Table Table 96957 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: jgut878 ( $35.24 )
Seat 5: ChuteBoss111 ( $2.97 )
Seat 6: Doreen95 ( $26.53 )
Seat 8: duanchangcao ( $52.19 )
Seat 9: big_dawg444 ( $14.48 )
Seat 10: tex5677 ( $20.13 )
Seat 1: zaaaaaak ( $26.35 )
Seat 4: IsraeliKid ( $11 )
Seat 7: cardoso333 ( $10 )
zaaaaaak posts small blind [$0.10].
jgut878 posts big blind [$0.25].
IsraeliKid posts big blind [$0.25].
cardoso333 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to zaaaaaak [ 6d 5h ]
IsraeliKid checks.
ChuteBoss111 folds.
Doreen95 calls [$0.25].
cardoso333 raises [$0.75].
duanchangcao folds.
big_dawg444 folds.
tex5677 calls [$1].
zaaaaaak calls [$0.90].
scaleo1_2 has joined the table.
jgut878 folds.
IsraeliKid folds.
Doreen95 calls [$0.75].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 3c, 6s ]
zaaaaaak bets [$3].
Doreen95 raises [$6].
cardoso333 is all-In.
tex5677 calls [$9].
zaaaaaak ???
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fal04: there's not too many hands i won't play for a quarter if i'm feeling it
fal04: i'll play 7-2 off if i feel it
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Lukie
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puuuuuuuuuuuush
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ark4748
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I swear ppl at 25 NL like to call raises with 74. Its scary....
I'm such a pussy here. Someone is probably on an OESD. Doreen would worry me,bc limp call, then mini raise on the flop often seems to be pp that flopped a set.
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benny999
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I think raising is slightly>folding>calling. Why call pre flop if not for this? I bet cardoso has an overpair, doreen has an overpair or set and tex with a draw or poorly played set/str8/overpair.
With no reads, I would raise to around $20...then again, might as well just push.
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Halv
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Fold preflop.
As played, push and pray.
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zaaaaaak
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Originally Posted by HalvSame
Fold preflop.
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Ok Sklansky.
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fal04: there's not too many hands i won't play for a quarter if i'm feeling it
fal04: i'll play 7-2 off if i feel it
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Halv
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Originally Posted by zaaaaaak
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Originally Posted by HalvSame
Fold preflop.
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Ok Sklansky.
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I don't like playing unsuited connectors in raised pots. Shoot me.
Didn't get the Sklansky reference (but I haven't read any Sklansky yet - that you could shoot me for).
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Lukie
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Originally Posted by zaaaaaak
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Originally Posted by HalvSame
Fold preflop.
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Ok Sklansky.
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lol, you really should fold preflop.
jesuz, you flop top 2 pair with the hand and you're still worried you're beat....
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Lukie
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Originally Posted by HalvSame
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Originally Posted by zaaaaaak
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Originally Posted by HalvSame
Fold preflop.
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Ok Sklansky.
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I don't like playing unsuited connectors in raised pots. Shoot me.
Didn't get the Sklansky reference (but I haven't read any Sklansky yet - that you could shoot me for).
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whenever you hear a sklanksy joke it's probably because somebody made a nitty comment or something. But no way is calling with 65o pre here a good play but I chose to ignore it in my first post.
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Halv
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Well, I guess it's not too bad to be compared to the man .
Edit: grammar (don't know if it ended up correct though - do you say "compare with" or "compare to"?)
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Lukie
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Originally Posted by HalvSame
Well, I guess it's not too bad to be compared to the man  .
Edit: grammar (don't know if it ended up correct though - do you say "compare with" or "compare to"?)
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haha, I agree, but it's usually used in a negative way. Especially on 2+2.
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Halv
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Yeah, they're a mean bunch over there. So, how's your mother? (since we're already waaaay of topic )
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zaaaaaak
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I was just kidding guys. I'm not that mean kinda dude.
I like getting involved in big pots with hands like these. It ended up getting me in trouble, of course.
***** Hand History for Game 4366719943 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, May 26, 15:08:29 ET 2006
Table Table 96957 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: jgut878 ( $35.24 )
Seat 5: ChuteBoss111 ( $2.97 )
Seat 6: Doreen95 ( $26.53 )
Seat 8: duanchangcao ( $52.19 )
Seat 9: big_dawg444 ( $14.48 )
Seat 10: tex5677 ( $20.13 )
Seat 1: zaaaaaak ( $26.35 )
Seat 4: IsraeliKid ( $11 )
Seat 7: cardoso333 ( $10 )
zaaaaaak posts small blind [$0.10].
jgut878 posts big blind [$0.25].
IsraeliKid posts big blind [$0.25].
cardoso333 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to zaaaaaak [ 6d 5h ]
IsraeliKid checks.
ChuteBoss111 folds.
Doreen95 calls [$0.25].
cardoso333 raises [$0.75].
duanchangcao folds.
big_dawg444 folds.
tex5677 calls [$1].
zaaaaaak calls [$0.90].
scaleo1_2 has joined the table.
jgut878 folds.
IsraeliKid folds.
Doreen95 calls [$0.75].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 3c, 6s ]
zaaaaaak bets [$3].
Doreen95 raises [$6].
cardoso333 is all-In.
tex5677 calls [$9].
zaaaaaak is all-In.
jgut878: oooooooo accion
Doreen95 is all-In.
tex5677 is all-In.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 8h ]
Doreen95 shows [ 3s, 3h ] a full house, Threes full of eights.
cardoso333 doesn't show [ Ac, Ad ] two pairs, aces and eights.
tex5677 doesn't show [ As, Ah ] two pairs, aces and eights.
zaaaaaak doesn't show [ 6d, 5h ] two pairs, eights and sixes.
Doreen95 wins $0.18 from side pot #3 with a full house, Threes full of eights.
Doreen95 wins $12.44 from side pot #2 with a full house, Threes full of eights.
Doreen95 wins $29.39 from side pot #1 with a full house, Threes full of eights.
Doreen95 wins $38.50 from the main pot with a full house, Threes full of eights.
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fal04: there's not too many hands i won't play for a quarter if i'm feeling it
fal04: i'll play 7-2 off if i feel it
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benny999
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I like getting involved in big pots with hands like these.
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Calling a 4bb pfr w/ 56o as a default play is a mega-leak. If you have a read you can steal the pot later, or in few other situations, it could work, but the majority of the time you'll be handing out chips.
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zaaaaaak
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Originally Posted by benny999
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I like getting involved in big pots with hands like these.
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Calling a 4bb pfr w/ 56o as a default play is a mega-leak. If you have a read you can steal the pot later, or in few other situations, it could work, but the majority of the time you'll be handing out chips.
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I'm in the SB with live cards, and it's 75 more cents for a $4 pot. I'm never folding this.
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fal04: there's not too many hands i won't play for a quarter if i'm feeling it
fal04: i'll play 7-2 off if i feel it
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Lukie
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being in the SB is a very, very, very, very strong reason to fold. And it's $.90 to you for a $2.35 pot where you don't close the action where your cards aren't very live at all. In fact only a small amount of the time will you flop anything worth anything at all.
But that's a whole 'nother discussion.
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zaaaaaak
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Originally Posted by Lukie
being in the SB is a very, very, very, very strong reason to fold. And it's $.90 to you for a $2.35 pot where you don't close the action where your cards aren't very live at all. In fact only a small amount of the time will you flop anything worth anything at all.
But that's a whole 'nother discussion. 
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Ok ok, I'm a fish.
Damn Lukie, you like picking on me .
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fal04: there's not too many hands i won't play for a quarter if i'm feeling it
fal04: i'll play 7-2 off if i feel it
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Halv
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I think a bit of Sklansky is called for: "Do you see why?"
Btw, right now I'm in the SB with AQo and I'm hating it.
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zaaaaaak
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Originally Posted by HalvSame
I think a bit of Sklansky is called for: "Do you see why?"
Btw, right now I'm in the SB with AQo and I'm hating it.
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I just raised UTG+1 with AQ clubs and it folded around to the SB who tripled my raise. I figured he picked up a monster so I laid it down and he showed some crap like 83o.
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fal04: there's not too many hands i won't play for a quarter if i'm feeling it
fal04: i'll play 7-2 off if i feel it
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