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boyobach
Old 07-28-2005, 07:05 PM     Post subject: Top set. Fold turn? #1 (permalink)  

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No at table long. Hadn't seen this guy pay any hands so no reads

***** Hand History for Game 2438303076 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, August 27, 14:46:02 EDT 2005
Table Table 36849 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: glyphics ( $70.35 )
Seat 6: ModyIII ( $41 )
Seat 8: BullyBusterB ( $100 )
Seat 9: dixonballz ( $100.88 )
Seat 10: taffy_jones ( $105.15 )
Seat 4: milat ( $79.50 )
Seat 5: dreamerts ( $219.78 )
Seat 7: juttis2 ( $96 )
Seat 1: glumpers ( $44.98 )
Seat 2: AMKDALLMINE ( $22 )
milat posts small blind [$0.50].
dreamerts posts big blind [$1].
AMKDALLMINE posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to taffy_jones [ Jh Js ]
ModyIII folds.
juttis2 folds.
BullyBusterB raises [$4].
dixonballz calls [$4].
taffy_jones calls [$4].
>You have options at Table 36868 Table!.
>You have options at Table 36868 Table!.
>You have options at Table 36868 Table!.
glumpers folds.
AMKDALLMINE folds.
glyphics folds.
milat folds.
dreamerts calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jc, 4s, 5s ]
dreamerts checks.
BullyBusterB bets [$10].
dixonballz folds.
taffy_jones raises [$20].
dreamerts folds.
BullyBusterB calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
BullyBusterB is all-In.

Results in white below...

taffy_jones calls [$76].
** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]
BullyBusterB shows [ Ks, 8s ] a flush, king high.
taffy_jones shows [ Jh, Js ] three of a kind, jacks.
BullyBusterB wins $206.50 from the main pot with a flush, king high.
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pocket Jacks eh?

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CANT WIN AGAINST 'EM
CANT FOLD 'EM
 
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Galapogos
Old 07-28-2005, 07:12 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I'm out as soon as I see the flush on board. But maybe this is because I am super paranoid of them since I seem to run into the wrong end of them a lot. Also, bet the flop way harder, you obviously have a guy who's willing to play and you have the best hand. Make sure you're giving him a horrible price for that flush chase.
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Old 07-28-2005, 07:16 PM #3 (permalink)  
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push the flop

by raising him just another $10 you are giving him odds to call
the pot sits at $46 and its $10 for him to go.
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Old 07-28-2005, 07:52 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Slow play it and string him along if you like, but be ready to fold when a draw hits the board.
OR
You have a nibble from a fish, I jam down the hammer and make him pay to outdraw you or pay with the 2nd best hand. Like DimitriT said, you have got to re-raise at least the amount in the pot before your re-raise($26) i.e. raise $26 to $52. You will get a call from 44, 55, or a stupid 45s, and even some really stupid flush draws with overcards.
Either way I am trying to take it down right now or get all my money in.
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boyobach
Old 07-28-2005, 08:02 PM #5 (permalink)  

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Yeah, i think you are right.
However, with his strong flop bet, I had him on AA-QQ. I wanted to make it look like i had AJ and was testing him with my minraise.
I was really looking forward to him reraising allin.

When the other spade came, I think i was still thinking AA/KK for him. Maybe he was holding the As.
I may hve even thoght "ah well, if he has got it....i have outs for a boat"

Whatever, i was thinking, i really didn't want to let my set go.

But, next time in same situaton....i push the flop!!!!
pocket Jacks eh?

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CANT WIN AGAINST 'EM
CANT FOLD 'EM
 
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bair
Old 07-28-2005, 08:59 PM #6 (permalink)  
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you need to drop the fucking hammer on the flop when theres a suited connector on the board
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dsaxton
Old 07-28-2005, 09:26 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I'd definitely call on the turn. He'd probably make this same play with a high pair that included a spade. Even if he does have the flush, you have outs.
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vegaas2
Old 07-28-2005, 09:33 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by bair
you need to drop the fucking hammer on the flop when theres a suited connector on the board
Yep, I dont dick around when there is flush and/or straight draws on the board. I dont care what I may have put him on off the start. Anytime I see that I have the nuts, but that there is a decent chance it will get cracked, time to push it hard.
There is a time for clever moves, this was not one of them.
Ram and Jam!
 
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Old 07-28-2005, 09:42 PM #9 (permalink)  
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This hand is the con to the pros and cons of poker. I hate poker now. I've gotta get to another thread quick.
I'll be a rootin' tootin' shootin' damn fool, protectin' my chips.
 
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boyobach
Old 07-28-2005, 10:25 PM #10 (permalink)  

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This hand is the con to the pros and cons of poker. I hate poker now. I've gotta get to another thread quick.
LOL THeggman

That is kind of how i felt after the hand.
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