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Renton

03-31-2006, 12:39 AM Post subject: Top set on flush flop.

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Should I have put in a post oak value bet here on the end? The pot was far larger than my stack, I figured he either had an underset or was a superdonk who knew nothing about pot odds, and missed his flush. I have top boat, so I am not worried about a better hand calling me. I figured the push was the best option, since there was a chance he'd had the flush all along and would surely call.

The pot was bigger than my stack at that point.

***** Hand History for Game 3854727753 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, March 30, 19:44:27 ET 2006
Table Table 96159 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: captnbruce ( $177.71 )
Seat 4: jmb71 ( $49.93 )
Seat 8: Freechill ( $117.40 )
Seat 9: Cknevel ( $95.61 )
Seat 10: gogel2107 ( $88.06 )
Seat 5: Renton555 ( $98.50 )
Seat 7: KINGBROCK1 ( $100.95 )
Seat 1: sunismine ( $59.55 )
Seat 2: safeel ( $253.36 )
Seat 6: ianlippert ( $98.50 )
sunismine posts small blind [$0.50].
safeel posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Renton555 [ Ks Kh ]
captnbruce folds.
jmb71 folds.
Renton555 raises [$4].
ianlippert folds.
KINGBROCK1 calls [$4].
Freechill folds.
Cknevel folds.
gogel2107 folds.
sunismine folds.
safeel calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, Kd, 2d ]
safeel checks.
Renton555 bets [$10].
KINGBROCK1 folds.
safeel calls [$10].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]
safeel checks.
Renton555 bets [$30].
safeel calls [$30].
** Dealing River ** [ 2s ]
safeel checks.
Renton555 is all-In [$54.50]
safeel folds.
Renton555 does not show cards.
Renton555 wins $144

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03-31-2006, 12:42 AM

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I don't think you coulda milled more off of him..

nice win btw

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03-31-2006, 12:45 AM

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Some people are more likely to call if you bet slightly under their full stack, or if you bet the exact amount of their stack rather than pushing yourself. The push is correct, but the way in which you push might have got a call.

I doubt it though.

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03-31-2006, 02:45 PM

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He's getting nearly 3:1.......he isn't going to fold anything good so it's an easy push

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03-31-2006, 02:53 PM

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He didn't get there. Ni Han sir.

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03-31-2006, 02:56 PM

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sick thing is even if he hit his flush on the river and took my stack (and I didn't fill up), I still made enough money from his calls with bad odds on previous streets to not even give a shit.

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03-31-2006, 03:04 PM

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sick thing is even if he hit his flush on the river and took my stack (and I didn't fill up), I still made enough money from his calls with bad odds on previous streets to not even give a shit.

Like I said, Ni Han. If you put him on a draw, then maybe a river check to induce, but that's very read dependent.

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03-31-2006, 03:17 PM

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If you put him on a draw, then maybe a river check to induce, but that's very read dependent.

I was in position. I figured the best I could have done was a tiny (10 bucks or so) value bet, but I am sure that would have been transparent as hell.

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03-31-2006, 03:21 PM

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If you put him on a draw, then maybe a river check to induce, but that's very read dependent.

I was in position. I figured the best I could have done was a tiny (10 bucks or so) value bet, but I am sure that would have been transparent as hell.

So make it $20 or $25 and milk that tit for all you can. This is assuming that you don't think he'll call a push at all.

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03-31-2006, 04:06 PM

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If you put him on a draw, then maybe a river check to induce, but that's very read dependent.

I was in position. I figured the best I could have done was a tiny (10 bucks or so) value bet, but I am sure that would have been transparent as hell.

Misread the hand. Yeah, just push it.

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03-31-2006, 04:43 PM

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If you put him on a draw, then maybe a river check to induce, but that's very read dependent.

I was in position. I figured the best I could have done was a tiny (10 bucks or so) value bet, but I am sure that would have been transparent as hell.

So make it $20 or $25 and milk that tit for all you can. This is assuming that you don't think he'll call a push at all.

Pot is like $90 and he's already called 3 agressive moves by you, how do you not push here when the last bet is less then 2/3 pot?

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03-31-2006, 05:53 PM

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I would push.

I'm saying that IF you think he WILL NOT call a push, and you don't want to bet a very small amount like $10, then put out what looks to be a blocking bet to induce a call or a push. My answer before was solely based on that very specific question that Renton asked about $10.

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