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Old 03-22-2006, 10:53 AM     Post subject: Top pair OK kicker Vs flopped 3 flush #1 (permalink)  
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Did I play this OK? No reads.

I think I should maybe have been more aggressive, but I've been hit by slow plays too often. Even so, I don't think I played it well.

My logic for this was bet on the flop to scare off a flush draw. Hopefully if they have the flush they'll raise. Then check on the turn in case they're just slow playing it, and not build the pot too much.


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Table Segou, 22 Mar 2006 6:13 AM ET


Seat 1: Mr.VonTook ($9.90 in chips)
Seat 2: JahJohan ($10.60 in chips)
Seat 4: H_andersson ($11.45 in chips)
Seat 5: kallebanan0 ($10.85 in chips)
Seat 6: rayshades ($9.30 in chips)
Seat 7: formaik ($5.15 in chips)
Seat 8: Rethe ($12.20 in chips)
Seat 10: flyingPeng1 ($8.10 in chips)

Dealt to flyingPeng1 [ JD,AD ]

ANTES/BLINDS
flyingPeng1 posts blind ($0.05), Mr.VonTook posts blind ($0.10).

PRE-FLOP
JahJohan calls $0.10, 2 folds, rayshades calls $0.10, 2 folds, flyingPeng1 bets $0.40, Mr.VonTook folds, JahJohan calls $0.35, rayshades folds.

FLOP [board cards AC,3C,8C ]
flyingPeng1 bets $1, JahJohan calls $1.

TURN [board cards AC,3C,8C,7H ]
flyingPeng1 checks, JahJohan checks.

RIVER [board cards AC,3C,8C,7H,KD ]
flyingPeng1 bets $1, JahJohan calls $1.
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Old 03-22-2006, 02:12 PM #2 (permalink)  
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hm. you usually can't scare away flush draws. This UTG limp-call I generally attribute to a little pp until something tells me otherwise. so... if it's a mediocre pp and one of them is a club, he's drawing -- at best -- to something like a 9-high flush.

Yeah, you gotta keep betting this. The way that turn goes you have NO good play on the river except maybe checking and inducing a bluff.
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Old 03-22-2006, 02:51 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I agree. If he's drawing to the flush you just gave him a free card. Bet $2 on the turn, and if he calls, put out a blocking bet about half the pot on the river. If he calls, you get a cheap-ish showdown. If he raises, you can safely fold.
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Old 03-22-2006, 04:32 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 3/4 pot the flop, half pot the turn. 1/3ish the river. If opp raises just dump it. Im building the pot as normal with what i think is a better hand or else im well behind and losing only 10-15bbs.
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Old 03-23-2006, 09:53 AM #5 (permalink)  
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So everyone basically agrees that I should have been more aggressive, as I think myself.

For the record he called and showed A9. Same pair, lower kicker. It seems that every time I'm not agressive and scared of the slow play I win at showdown, and every time I am aggressive the opp has a slow played monster.

I guess without reads being aggressive every time would be higher EV at $10NL.
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