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Vinterriket

04-08-2006, 04:53 AM Post subject: Top 2 pair, line check

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I'm strictly a sng and mtt player but decided to try some ring again.
Is my line here standard?

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SB ($22.85)
BB ($8.75)
Hero ($29.10)
MP1 ($9.60)
MP2 ($7)
CO ($23.50)
Button ($60.15)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K

, Q

.
Hero calls $0.25, 3 folds, Button calls $0.25, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) K

, Q

, 2

(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.55, Button calls $0.55, SB folds, BB raises to $4, Hero raises to $7.45, Button folds, BB raises to $8.5, Hero calls $1.05.

Final Pot: $18.55

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Fnord

04-08-2006, 06:30 AM

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Fnord is an unknown quantity at this point

Yeah, I play for stacks with shortie here too.

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martindcx1e

04-08-2006, 06:43 AM

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I usually fold KQo UTG in a full ring game. I actually have no idea how much being 7 handed changes things. Thoughts on this anyone? But after the flop ya I would definitely get the money in against shorty.

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Fnord

04-08-2006, 06:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by martindcx1e

I usually fold KQo UTG in a full ring game.

Meh, I've given up on being the pre-flop police. I just don't care and if you play well enough compared to your opponents it's not a big deal.

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Fnord

04-08-2006, 06:58 AM

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FOLD PREFLOP YOU FISH!!!!

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Fnord ($106.85)
Button ($62.85)
SB ($28)
BB ($40.30)
UTG ($95)
UTG+1 ($17)
MP1 ($136.50)
MP2 ($191.55)
MP3 ($124.70)

Preflop: Fnord is CO with T

, J

.
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $3, Fnord calls $3, 3 folds, UTG calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2.

Flop: ($13.50) T

, J

, 3

(4 players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets $3, Fnord raises to $12, UTG calls $12, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls $9.

Turn: ($49.50) 2

(3 players)
UTG checks, MP3 checks, Fnord bets $30, UTG calls $30, MP3 folds.

River: ($109.50) A

(2 players)
UTG checks, Fnord checks.

Final Pot: $109.50

Results in white below:
UTG has Qd 9d (high card, ace).
Fnord has Tc Jc (two pair, jacks and tens).
Outcome: Fnord wins $109.50.

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Button ($26.30)
SB ($109.40)
BB ($46.65)
UTG ($108.25)
UTG+1 ($41.10)
MP1 ($9.70)
Fnord ($147)
MP3 ($108.25)
CO ($27.10)

Preflop: Fnord is MP2 with 3

, A

.
3 folds, Fnord raises to $3, 4 folds, BB calls $2.

Flop: ($6.50) 5

, 4

, Q

(2 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets $4, BB calls $4.

Turn: ($14.50) 8

(2 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets $9, BB calls $9.

River: ($32.50) 2

(2 players)
BB checks, Fnord bets $31, BB calls $30.65 (All-In).

Final Pot: $94.15

Results in white below:
BB has 5d 5c (three of a kind, fives).
Fnord has 3h Ah (flush, ace high).
Outcome: Fnord wins $94.15.

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UTG+1 ($52.75)
MP1 ($157.15)
MP2 ($32.90)
CO ($30.90)
Fnord ($107.75)
SB ($10)
BB ($46.55)
UTG ($11.05)

Preflop: Fnord is Button with 8

, 7

.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1, 1 fold, Fnord calls $1, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($5) 7

, 8

, 3

(5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets $4, MP2 folds, Fnord raises to $12, SB folds, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $8.

Turn: ($29) K

(2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Fnord bets $20, UTG+1 calls $20.

River: ($69) 3

(2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Fnord checks.

Final Pot: $69

Results in white below:
UTG+1 has 9c Kc (two pair, kings and threes).
Fnord has 8h 7c (two pair, eights and sevens).
Outcome: UTG+1 wins $69.

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UTG ($28.50)
UTG+1 ($106.35)
Fnord ($155.95)
MP2 ($123.55)
CO ($178.55)
Button ($148.80)
SB ($99)
BB ($33.50)

Preflop: Fnord is MP1 with A

, J

.
2 folds, Fnord raises to $3, MP2 calls $3, CO calls $3, 3 folds.

Flop: ($10.50) 2

, 6

, 4

(3 players)
Fnord checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.

Turn: ($10.50) J

(3 players)
Fnord checks, MP2 checks, CO bets $7, Fnord calls $7, MP2 folds.

River: ($24.50) K

(2 players)
Fnord checks, CO bets $16, Fnord calls $16.

Final Pot: $56.50

Results in white below:
Fnord has As Jc (one pair, jacks).
CO has 8d Th (high card, king).
Outcome: Fnord wins $56.50.

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martindcx1e

04-08-2006, 07:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Fnord

Meh, I've given up on being the pre-flop police. I just don't care and if you play well enough compared to your opponents it's not a big deal.

It does kinda get old doesn't it? Even when someone asks for advice that doesn't include "Fold Pre-Flop" they still get that. Vinterriket, more power to you if you are able to avoid troublesome decisions with that hand.

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littlewashu

04-08-2006, 03:30 PM

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maybe pre flop raise here what do you think guys

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Vinterriket

04-08-2006, 10:06 PM

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if the table seems passive preflop with not much raising I will limp UTG with hands like KQ, AT, AJ, etc

And sometimes rather than limping I will raise these hands. Sometimes I'll fold, it's just based on the feel of the table.

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