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Old 01-02-2006, 04:05 PM     Post subject: Top 2 pair folded on the flop #1 (permalink)  
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Hand #166665574 at table: Table TH 1618
Started: Mon Jan 02 16:15:42 2006

liliana is at seat 1 with 103.58
blizgamer is at seat 2 with 18.00
michteau is at seat 3 with 0.00
Zoli2 is at seat 4 with 144.52
EarlLambie is at seat 5 with 98.50
All-in4Fun is at seat 6 with 164.35
bleibaggro is at seat 7 with 61.47
kosynier1 is at seat 8 with 37.50
dolly8 is at seat 9 with 24.50
Longy11 is at seat 10 with 100.00

All-in4Fun posts the large blind 1.00
EarlLambie posts the small blind 0.50

All-in4Fun: Js, Kh

Pre-flop:

bleibaggro: Call 1.00
kosynier1: Call 1.00
dolly8: Fold
liliana: Fold
blizgamer: Fold
Zoli2: Call 1.00
EarlLambie: Call 1.00
All-in4Fun: Check

Pot: $5
Flop (Board: Kd, 7c, Jc):

EarlLambie: Check
All-in4Fun: Bet 4.00
bleibaggro: Call 4.00
kosynier1: Fold
Zoli2: Raise 13.00
EarlLambie: Fold
All-in4Fun: Raise 25.00
bleibaggro: Fold
Zoli2: Raise 51.00
All-in4Fun: Fold

Good fold? Cheaper way to do this?
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Old 01-02-2006, 06:14 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 You don't give a read so that makes it tough, but with no raise pre-flop I put him on a set of 7s or possibly Js, 'cause he's repping a very good hand post-flop, but he could've had top two pair as well... Me, I'd call his raise instead of re-raising and go from there...



 
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You cant really put your stack in hoping for a split really.

I didn't really have a read on this guy.
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You cant really put your stack in hoping for a split really.

I didn't really have a read on this guy.
You asked for a cheaper way and that's it. You put a good chunk of your stack in with your reraise, so your point is moot. Either fold if you put him on a set or call and see another card.



 
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You cant really put your stack in hoping for a split really.

I didn't really have a read on this guy.
You asked for a cheaper way and that's it. You put a good chunk of your stack in with your reraise, so your point is moot. Either fold if you put him on a set or call and see another card.
Sorry I misread your first post. I thought you ment call his very last raise before my fold.

So you call and bet into him on the turn, if he raises again your out? If not, cheap showdown.
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You cant really put your stack in hoping for a split really.

I didn't really have a read on this guy.
You asked for a cheaper way and that's it. You put a good chunk of your stack in with your reraise, so your point is moot. Either fold if you put him on a set or call and see another card.
Sorry I misread your first post. I thought you ment call his very last raise before my fold.

So you call and bet into him on the turn, if he raises again your out? If not, cheap showdown.
That's about the size of it. I'd at least want to give myself a chance to make my fh for the right price.



 
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 check raise the flop because of position imo despite the dangerous flop, someone has a piece of that in an unraised pot. I think if opp comes back over the check raise i go bust if he can beat my top two.
I think you dont get showdown without playing for stacks in this pot so id call the reraise (assuming your check raise got reraised) and here id call too. If he puts it in on the turn free of clubs im having a tough time putting top two down. I guess its one of the situations i allow myself to go broke.
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The money is pretty deep, but I think I play for stacks here too without more information on our opponent.
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