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DonCoryon

04-07-2006, 07:31 AM Post subject: Tonights Session's All In's

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Hi Everyone,
I've been posting on this forum for 2 days now and I have always given the advice of aggressive play. I want to back up my statements with some hand histories from one of tonight's sessions. If you have another take on a better way to play the hand I would welcome the feed back.

First Hand:

I have been at this table for about 15 mins. I have a read on MP3, however, I don't have one on the SB because it is his second hand.

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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with J

UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB checks.

I choose to call here because I don't value QJ very much in a large pot. I can completely miss the pot or have a A or K fall either with or without a Q or J.

Flop: A

($3, 6 players)
SB bets $0.5, 3 folds, MP3 raises to $2, Hero calls, SB calls.

While I am only getting 2.7/1 pot odds, my read on MP3 is that even if I hit my flush he will pay a small bet off to ensure I am not bluffing him. So I have implied odds to make this call.

Turn: 9

($9, 3 players)
SB checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $6, SB raises to $12, MP3 folds, Hero raises all-in $40.25, SB calls all-in $28.9.

Jackpot! I hit my flush and since it's checked to me I bet it out. Now the shocker the SB check raises me. I think about it for a minute. One, there is only one card that can beat me and that is the K. Also, I take his bet into account, it's a little girly raise. So, I push all in. He calls.

River: 8

($61.25, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $89.5)

SB 4 2
Hero Q J

Second Hand:

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Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with K

UTG raises to $2, 5 folds, Hero raises to $6, BB folds, UTG raises to $10, Hero raises all-in $87.65, UTG calls all-in $27.80.

OK here, I have Kings, the second best starting hand, only beatable by Aces. It's raised 4xBB by UTG. I reraise him. He then reraises me. And now here is where I think a lot of the forum posters would quit, or call, or something. But again look at his bet. Different player but same bet: A little girly raise, not even double my bet this time. I always advocate getting the money into the pot. If he has aces, Happy Birthday UTG. He obviously wants to play his hand, so I push all in. With out a second to spare he calls.

Flop: J

($131, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $131)

Turn: J

($131, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $131)

River: 3

($131, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $131)

UTG = QQ
Me = KK

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mxiu

04-07-2006, 07:34 AM

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First hand is okay.

Second hand, you're lucky he called.

DonCoryon

04-07-2006, 07:54 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mxiu

First hand is okay.

Not sure what your point is here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxiu

Second hand, you're lucky he called.

This is the main point of my post. Most players would call, or make a little raise and toy with people. These fish will call when you push all in. No need to get fancy. Sometimes they don't, I agree, but a lot of the time they do and because of this factor you will make a lot more money.

I see people calling all in bets preflop with KQ, TT, once even saw it with JT.

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mxiu

04-07-2006, 08:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DonCoryon

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxiu

First hand is okay.

Not sure what your point is here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxiu

Second hand, you're lucky he called.

First hand is fine. Standard.

Second hand, the only way I make that play is if I have a strong read that they will call. Otherwise, I'll take a flop and play poker.

You don't run into fish that will call this that often.

jackvance

04-07-2006, 09:19 AM Post subject: Re: Tonights Session's All In's

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Very nice. You went with your reads to adapt your play, and played em out nicely. One thing though:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonCoryon

I choose to call here because I don't value QJ very much in a large pot. I can completely miss the pot or have a A or K fall either with or without a Q or J.

Well, it worked out nicely here.. but do you really think it's such a good idea to, in effect, downplay such a nice hand? Now the whole table gets a chance to see their low-chance uber hand on the flop. Personally I'd always raise this one. Atleast weed out the total crap that might get lucky.

DonCoryon

04-07-2006, 06:06 PM Post subject: Re: Tonights Session's All In's

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jackvance

Very nice. You went with your reads to adapt your play, and played em out nicely. One thing though:

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonCoryon

I choose to call here because I don't value QJ very much in a large pot. I can completely miss the pot or have a A or K fall either with or without a Q or J.

My personal opinion is that it's not a nice hand. I know some people like it and think it's, as you say, a "nice" hand. But in my experience, I either win small pots with it when I pair, or lose big pots with it when I pair. I think the only thing it really has going is the str8 and flush potential.

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04-07-2006, 06:17 PM

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For what it's worth, the less I'm all-in, the better off I am.

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AHiltz

04-07-2006, 06:23 PM

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Hand #2 is fine due to opps stack. He is putting 1/4 of his stack in preflop on a rereraise. I push this too. I want to see 5 cards in case an A hits the flop.

Seasider

04-07-2006, 06:46 PM

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If you meet a player who realises you respond to 'little girly bets' by going all in you could get burnt. NH's tho.

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