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drtofu66

03-17-2007, 01:24 AM Post subject: Three hands 10NL PS

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Posts: 595

Why oh why am I on Poker Stars???? Anyway--

******* Hand 1 ********

Villain is complete unknown-- he just sat down the hand before and posted in MP.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $8.55
UTG+1: $7.80
MP1: $3.45
MP2: $10.70
CO: $2.10
Hero: $9.20
SB: $9.90
BB: $18.65

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is Button with Q

UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero raises to $0.7, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 5

($1.75, 2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.
[I c-bet a lot-- probably too much. It seems to be an especially bad habit on PS since I feel that I get called down or C/R'd on the flop too much and inflate the pot with air. It seems to be against the rules to fold on the flop at PS. I don't know this guy so I want to see what he does on the turn and keep the pot small. I've been pushed off hands getting C/R'd with missed overs a lot and want to see a cheap card. And PS seems to be the place where it's standard to bet your draws HU. If he has a set he's played it badly, IMHO. I'm thinking he's got a small PP and would call a flop bet anyway with just KJ or JT].

Turn: A

($1.75, 2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.6, Hero raises to $1.2, UTG+1 raises to $2, Hero calls.
[The minraise here-- I know I'm going to get criticized for it. Fine. I just wanted to see what he did with it and keep the pot small. I got the info I wanted and I smell bullshit here. If he's got the flush he should be betting a lot harder than he did and either making me pay for 2nd nut FD here or making me pay for drawing dead. A real 3-bet gets me to fold, honest. I decided to call here and call a non-diamond river. I just don't believe he flopped 2 pair or a set with this action. I'm thinking more that he caught his A-rag and is repping a flush or semi-bluffing with A-Td. Does anyone believe this guy?].

River: 2

($5.75, 2 players)
UTG+1 is all-in $5.1, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: $15.95

If the stacks were bigger here-- if he had pushed $7 into a $5 pot I might find a fold. It just didn't make sense to me for him not to get more in on the turn to make the river call easier (for me) if he had a stronger hand than TP. It looks like a bully move and I just don't buy it. If he lead the flop or raised the turn more, I might believe it. Anyone disagree?

******* Hand 2 ********
If I don't catch the FH on the river, I check it down. Is there any amount on the river to call here without the boat? Up to $1?

As played, is my value bet enough?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $9.90
UTG+1: $10.60
MP1: $6.20
Hero: $9.85
CO: $20.90
Button: $16.80
SB: $3.55
BB: $6.90

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP2 with T

UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, Hero raises to $0.6, 2 folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: T

($2.5, 4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $2, SB folds, UTG calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: 6

($6.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: 2

($6.5, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3, UTG calls.

Results:
Final pot: $12.5

******* Hand 3 ********
Again, if I don't luckbox on the river is there any amount to call with? $0.75?
And did I raise the river enough?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $6.75
UTG+1: $13.05
MP1: $7.65
MP2: $10.55
Hero: $9.75
CO: $5.50
Button: $6.20
SB: $2.75
BB: $10

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with Q

UTG calls, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.55, 4 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: A

($1.25, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: 9

($1.25, 2 players)
UTG bets $0.5, Hero calls.

River: Q

($2.25, 2 players)
UTG bets $0.5, Hero raises to $2.25, UTG calls.

Results:
Final pot: $6.75

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NLHE lahooozaher

03-17-2007, 05:10 AM

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Posts: 916

1st hand seems the worst. Fold to his reraise on the turn. I don't mind the miniraise and make it myself sometimes for free showdowns.

2nd hand is obv standard but I'm not sure how much I'd call on the river UI because the pot is big and he prob throws out a decent sized bet. In this case, like you said, just check behind UI.

3rd hand is standard, I'd have called his river bet w/o the river Q. I'd call up to a $1 I think. I think I call to much in this situation because low stakes playas really love there Ace/no kicker hands.

bode

03-17-2007, 04:52 PM

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bode is an unknown quantity at this point

hand 1: make a real raise on the turn and fold to a push. As played, fold river.

hand 2: value push the river, youre getting called by his flush.

hand 3: i call the small bet UI, but i think you could raise even bigger and still get called here.

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drtofu66

03-17-2007, 05:30 PM

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Posts: 595

For hand 1-- what are you putting him on? I posted this more as a "does his story add up?" hand. I feel like PS players, even at 10NL pounce on weak-tightness and I know my play can devolve into that at times.

My take was that HU he would have bet the flop weakly with a FD, set or 2 pair to build the pot and/or hope I'd raise. As played, the weak turn bet into a small pot when the flush came plus the almost-as-weak 3-bet didn't make sense. I thought he would have at least made a 1/2 pot bet with a flush as played so far or 3-bet bigger when I declared that the A hit me. Even if he turned 2 pair, the weak bets didn't add up, as he really should have been protecting it in case I had A-Kd in my hand. I really had him with some suited A hand and was repping the flush or semi-bluffing.

And if it helps your read, he thought for a bit (not a terribly long time, but a couple of beats) before 3-betting me on the turn and then he instapushed the river.

drtofu66

03-18-2007, 06:42 PM

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Flush

Join Date: Apr 2005

Posts: 595

I guess there's nothing left to say with hand 1. Villain turned over K6o. I thought I was ahead-- I just didn't figure him for a complete bluff like that. I was ready to fold the turn to the 3bet, but the bet sized bugged me so I thought I'd stray from my usual weak-tightness.

Hand 2 villain had 9s8c. I'm not sure I get a call with a push; I was hoping more that he had the As or Ks and would have reraised.

Hand3 villain had Ah4h. Maybe he calls a raise to $3?

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