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Old 06-08-2009, 02:39 PM     Post subject: Thoughts on 3-betting when deep?? #1 (permalink)  
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I was looking at some 3bet pots and came across a few where I was at least somewhat deep. With different sites offering more deep tables now, what are some thoughts on 3 betting when deep?
I realize now that I'm not really ruining any pot odds for setmining by 3 betting. Maybe I should be more willing to get away from overpairs when deep? But then I might just be playing scared every time I'm deep with a player.
Anyway, I played this hand trying to get as much money in the pot assuming he does not have a set, but has like AQ or KK instead. But I'm really not sure this is a great way to play it so need some advice...
For reference V is 16/15 preflop over 450 hands but I don't know much more about him than that.


Button ($104.65)
Hero (SB) ($160.70)
BB ($234.05)
UTG ($88.85)
UTG+1 ($65.45)
MP1 ($45.55)
MP2 ($118.35)
CO ($216.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A
UTG calls $1, 3 folds, CO bets $4.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, CO calls $7.50

Flop: ($26) 7, 3, Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $14, Hero raises to $35, CO calls $21

Turn: ($96) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $45, CO raises to $169.30 (All-In), Hero calls $68.70 (All-In)
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Old 06-08-2009, 02:59 PM #2 (permalink)  
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wtf your 3 bet sizing preflop? wtf your c/r with AA on this dry flop? I dont mind stacking off 160BB deep with AA here.
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:11 PM #3 (permalink)  
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wat

3bet more.. like 16-17'ish

bet flop. c/r is so bad cuz you arent getting value from anyone decent. AQ/KK drop their hands pretty quick. betting allows you to extract value on later streets.

if he's decent he'll show up with QQ the way you played it.
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:11 PM #4 (permalink)  
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is this on stars? if so, whats your sn
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:53 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 yeah raise more preflop and just betbetbet
 
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Old 06-08-2009, 05:03 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Yeah, this isn't like the standard way I would play this hand. Usually when I go beyond my normal play is where I get into trouble...
Anyway, yeah I often 3bet 3x, but this is definitely a small 3bet in this case, esp. out of position. I was thinking that he's going to very likely have a weak hand here and that's why I c/raised. I thought I'd get at least some value from hands that normally fold to a c/bet here and he might be more likely to call a raise on dry board like this w/like KQ or QJ.
So the fact that its somewhat deep doesn't change the plan to just bet bet bet? Guess I just tend to overthink it. Thanks!
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is this on stars? if so, whats your sn
No, this isn't on stars, my sn isMinrdetails
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