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Old 06-23-2009, 11:19 PM     Post subject: Thin value shove against this villain? #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is 7/7 over 128 hands.

Thoughts on value shove? His range is AsKs, AsQs, JJ+?

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saw flop

Hero (CO) ($82.75)
Button ($16.20)
SB ($50)
BB ($76.80)
UTG ($145.45)
UTG+1 ($29.75)
MP1 ($50)
MP2 ($39.65)
MP3 ($49.25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2, 2
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold, SB bets $3, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $2.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.50

Flop: ($10) 2, 5, J (3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $6, SB calls $6, 1 fold

Turn: ($22) 9 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $16, SB calls $16

River: ($54) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $25, SB calls $25 (All-In)

Total pot: $104 | Rake: $3
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Old 06-23-2009, 11:29 PM #2 (permalink)  
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this isn't even remotely thin. epic fistpump
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on an epic downswing right now, hence the creation of 13532532 topics

thanks for the gif badgers. makes me feel better actually hahaha
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bigger flop and turn bets

ignore results on this hand, w/e if we lost
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bigger flop and turn bets

ignore results on this hand, w/e if we lost
flop bet probably shouldve been a bit bigger, but i think turn is fine.

aren't stacks flying in the middle regardless of bet sizing?
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 i consider checking this river behind
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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bigger flop and turn bets

ignore results on this hand, w/e if we lost
flop bet probably shouldve been a bit bigger, but i think turn is fine.

aren't stacks flying in the middle regardless of bet sizing?

Right, turn bet is good sizing as played. What I meant to say was bet bigger on flop so our turn bet is larger. He's either gonna fold this flop, or call whatever you bet. $8 or $9 sounds good to me.

If this weren't a 3b pot I wouldn't shove the river, but considering he has less FD's in his range its fine
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this is not a 3bet pot

I just can't see FDs checking to us that much on this river, and I think JJ raises flop a lot on this board. That is why I think this is such a clear shovel.
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:33 AM #9 (permalink)  
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this is not a 3bet pot

I just can't see FDs checking to us that much on this river, and I think JJ raises flop a lot on this board. That is why I think this is such a clear shovel.

Right, I misspoke. I meant he is somewhat less likely as the raiser of the limpers to hold a FD.
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