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Old 02-21-2006, 05:51 PM     Post subject: Is there anything good in this K high Bluff? #1 (permalink)  
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Regeneration 4914695-138196 Holdem No Limit $0.05/$0.10
[Feb 21 18:45:29] : Hand Start.
[Feb 21 18:45:29] : Seat 1 : birdmanrm has $4.14
[Feb 21 18:45:29] : Seat 2 : reddevilldw has $9.05
[Feb 21 18:45:29] : Seat 3 : manzi777 has $30.99
[Feb 21 18:45:29] : Seat 4 : Phantaroth has $26.83
[Feb 21 18:45:29] : Seat 5 : k�zza has $7.22
[Feb 21 18:45:29] : Seat 6 : LEKAR has $7.45
[Feb 21 18:45:29] : Phantaroth is the dealer.
[Feb 21 18:45:29] : k�zza posted small blind.
[Feb 21 18:45:32] : LEKAR posted big blind.
[Feb 21 18:45:32] : Game [138196] started with 6 players.
[Feb 21 18:45:32] : Dealing Hole Cards.
[Feb 21 18:45:32] : Seat 4 : Phantaroth has Kh Qd
[Feb 21 18:45:34] : birdmanrm folded.
[Feb 21 18:45:37] : reddevilldw called $0.10
[Feb 21 18:45:43] : manzi777 called $0.10 and raised $1
[Feb 21 18:45:46] : Phantaroth called $1.10 and raised $2
[Feb 21 18:45:48] : k�zza folded.
[Feb 21 18:46:27] : LEKAR folded.
[Feb 21 18:46:27] : reddevilldw folded.
[Feb 21 18:46:30] : manzi777 called $2
[Feb 21 18:46:30] : Dealing flop.
[Feb 21 18:46:30] : Board cards [8d 3d 8s]
[Feb 21 18:46:42] : manzi777 checked.
[Feb 21 18:46:47] : Phantaroth bet $5.60
[Feb 21 18:46:25] : manzi777 called $5.60
[Feb 21 18:46:25] : Dealing turn.
[Feb 21 18:46:25] : Board cards [8d 3d 8s Jd]
[Feb 21 18:46:39] : manzi777 checked.
[Feb 21 18:46:40] : Phantaroth checked.
[Feb 21 18:46:40] : Dealing river.
[Feb 21 18:46:40] : Board cards [8d 3d 8s Jd 9h]
[Feb 21 18:46:48] : manzi777 checked.
[Feb 21 18:46:52] : Phantaroth bet $10.10

I accidently raised pre flop, didn't see that he had already raised because I wasn't paying attention. This guy had lost 20$ to me at this table and he had tried to bluff me on the river 2/3 times i'd gotten to the river with him. I put out these 2 raises because I was a bit on tilt that I wasn't paying attention and I wanted to make something out of the hand....

Is there anything of value here? If i'm going to try and do this, did I do it right or horribly wrong?
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Old 02-21-2006, 05:59 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 preflop sucks, flops is okay, turn is good, river is good, I like the river bluff because he seems to have something like AK which would have to fold.
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Old 02-21-2006, 06:31 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Fold preflop. Not even close, unless he has been raising 10xBB frequently with crap. And bluffing a tilter that's out to get you is VERY -EV. Don't do it.
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Old 02-21-2006, 06:37 PM #4 (permalink)  
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He is raising with crap frequently, he raised the river twice vs me without even a high card, he is playing everything.

With that said, I still don't think it was a good idea on my part... but he did fold, and i'm just lucky it worked.
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Old 02-21-2006, 07:25 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 This is a fold preflop... but since you asked about the bluff...

Looks like a bluff. But I think you could have taken this pot if you bet on the turn, as this would have looked like a high pocket pair because of your accidental re-raise pre-flop. Usually a c-bet on the flop that's called then checked on the turn looks like a miss on the flop. To win the pot, the only way is to bet the river - which is what you did. But aware opponents should be able to sniff this out easily if beating ace high.


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Old 02-21-2006, 07:32 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Yeah, a turn bet would have been more effective.
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