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fade177

12-27-2005, 06:28 AM Post subject: Take more risk on the turn here?

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Alright, I'm putting this player on QJ or KQ with an BB limp and playing this way on this board. Can I accept more risk on the turn and make more out of this hand considering he's betting into me? After playing a lot of cheap MTT tourney's and getting flushed out on hands I'm not giving odds to chase I've been playing a bit too aggressive with flush draws on the board, perhaps....

Full Tilt Poker Game #355444021: Table Silverstream - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:07:08 ET - 2005/12/27
Seat 1: DaveH000 ($34.60)
Seat 2: Shrinkage ($64.95)
Seat 3: CallmeMike ($46.20)
Seat 4: pamellasue59 ($38)
Seat 5: Papadino ($18.30)
Seat 6: mynoodle ($49.50)
Seat 7: fade177 ($40.85)
Seat 8: dRunKendRagOn ($19.50)
Seat 9: Cmash35 ($45)
Shrinkage posts the small blind of $0.25
CallmeMike posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to fade177 [7d 7s]
pamellasue59 folds
Papadino calls $0.50
mynoodle folds
fade177: Is that what you do papadino come to a table with the right sized stack to have the right fold equity with the shove in
fade177 calls $0.50
dRunKendRagOn folds
Cmash35 calls $0.50
DaveH000 folds
Shrinkage calls $0.25
Papadino: CALL ME
CallmeMike checks
*** FLOP *** [7h Qs 3h]
Shrinkage checks
fade177: haha
CallmeMike bets $1.50
Papadino folds
Papadino: LOL
fade177 raises to $4.50
Cmash35 folds
Shrinkage folds
CallmeMike calls $3
*** TURN *** [7h Qs 3h] [6c]
CallmeMike bets $7
DaveH000: LOL
fade177 has 15 seconds left to act
fade177 raises to $17

Results in white:
CallmeMike folds
Uncalled bet of $10 returned to fade177
fade177 mucks
fade177 wins the pot ($24.25)
Papadino: DAMN THAT WAS LATE
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $25.50 | Rake $1.25
Board: [7h Qs 3h 6c]
Seat 1: DaveH000 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Shrinkage (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: CallmeMike (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 4: pamellasue59 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Papadino folded on the Flop
Seat 6: mynoodle didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: fade177 collected ($24.25), mucked
Seat 8: dRunKendRagOn didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Cmash35 folded on the Flop

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Fnord

12-27-2005, 08:49 AM

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Don't tap the glass. I don't beleive I've ever said "fold equity" at a table unless I was goofing with other aware players. I get out my inner table coach here so I can say all sorts of things at the table to manipulate my opponents.

Don't stall so much before making a play either. I took a tip here from Soupie and like to go about 5-10 sec before making any non-trivial play.

Everything else is standard.

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fade177

12-27-2005, 09:06 AM

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I do think i need to just stop chatting at the tables. I talk a lot as a person. I always have something to say and very rarely is it just a stupid comment. I may talk a lot but its always with a point. I'm beginning to realize though, that in an online room, my chatting or trying to understand a hand only makes players think that i'm one of those "knows a lot but is a shitty player" player. Perhaps I am, but basically mentioning odds, or anything of any seriousness only makes me look fishier it seems, I was kinda joking with that guy and the stall is tough, I went to reraise and then noticed my intitial raise was gonna leave me with very little in my stack, I wanted to raise more, but then backed it down. dunno....

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12-27-2005, 09:11 AM

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Poker is a gambling game. Stop playing the odds and thinking on the surface and start gambling! It's a good balance for your inner-nit and makes it easy to shake off a bad beat or poor decision.

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Next time you see someone horribly butcher a hand, say something to encourage them. Stick up for the fish when the table coach digs in on him. Give misinformation on how you would have played a hand. Get into the wrong side of an argument with the table coach (but just wrong enough to not look sarcastic.) Show as much gambling spirit as you can muster. It's good for you, it's good for the game and it's a lot of fun!

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fade177

12-27-2005, 09:29 AM

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I know this sounds weird, but i've never been a gambler, more of a strategist. People ask to play me for money in golf all the time, and i generally don't even though more times than not I'll come out ahead. Perhaps this is where my head is all wrong, I love the creative challenge, but I don't take stupid risks, and a lot of times I end up not taking any risk at all. I need to change this, at least in poker, and in many aspects of life, golf seems to be working lol it pays for college....

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Miffed22001

12-27-2005, 01:37 PM

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Fnord whats 'on trivial play'?
table talk. Say the fishy did goot, tell the table coach he sucks, lie about everyhand u dont show down, tell them u have shit or the nutz whateva. Dont talk talk strat, just act like a turd. Its what i do, most often im sat bantering with some turd who hates my preflop call with 89s against his AA to flop something big.

Fnord

12-27-2005, 03:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

Fnord whats 'on trivial play'?

Folding trash pre-flop.

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