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ville18

04-14-2005, 07:24 AM Post subject: Stupid play gets paid and i'm not even angrrrrry

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OK, so i've been on downswing for a week now and i started playing sngs' at Stars, but i left some money to Multipoker for ring play. I tried to play little looser play (as you can see, i called about 5,5xBB PFR with KTs, a hand which i usually fold from any place). But anyways, here's the hand.

PP No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) converter

saw flop|saw showdown

HERO ($41.54)
UTG+1 ($38.66)
MP1 ($24.4)
MP2 ($83.27)
MP3 ($26)
CO ($39.86)
Button ($24.25)
SB ($32.05)
BB ($27.15)

Preflop: HERO is UTG with T

, K

.
HERO calls $0.25, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP3 raises to $1.35, CO calls $1.35, 3 folds, HERO calls $1.10, UTG+1 calls $1.10.

Here I put him TJ/9T or just some overcards because of the smallish raise. I would've folded here if she would've raised say 6$, but that min-raise just showed weakness to me:

Flop: ($5.75) T

, 2

, 7

(4 players)
HERO bets $2, UTG+1 raises to $4, MP3 folds, CO folds, HERO calls $2.

OK here's where i should've folded i guess, but i still put him TJ/9T, I didn't even hesitate to call this, which scares me a bit. The pot was quite big though. Would you have called this?

Turn: ($13.75) T

(2 players)
HERO checks, UTG+1 bets $3, HERO raises to $15, UTG+1 raises to $33.31 (All-In), HERO calls $18.31.

Mwehahaha, sux0rz to be you:
River: ($80.37) T

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $80.37
Main Pot: $80.37, between HERO and UTG+1. > Pot won by HERO ($80.37).

Results in white below:
HERO has Tc Kc (four of a kind, tens).
UTG+1 has 7c 7s (full house, tens full of sevens).
Outcome: HERO wins $80.37.

Being stupid gets paid, or what? I lost 6 buy-ins in two days for just bad-beats at the end of last week, so i've been there, 1outer once, 2outer twice, three and four-outers on river or flop All-ins.

So, would you have called that turn raise, or even the flop?

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Legendash

04-14-2005, 11:37 AM

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i think unless you have been playing a lot with this player you are being too specific with which hands you put them on. This i a 5x raise, this could mean anything from AA to A2s, why are you so sure about TJ/9T. I think i'd assume they have a strong pocket pair, i'd fold on the flop thinking my tens were beat, he should have raised more if he wanted to protect his trips but i think he was raising for value.

On the turn, still going with an overpair hypothesis i'd be likely to call the all in, trips are rare, 77 and 22 are the only hands really beating you here, the river was a good card for you but you could have had no complaints if you'd lost, i feel you were outplayed.

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drmcboy

04-14-2005, 01:40 PM

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'Here I put him TJ/9T' - huh? This sounds to me more like the hand you wanted him to have.

or just some overcards - Which means there is a good chance you're dominated.

ville18

04-14-2005, 02:12 PM

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Overcards, not overpair. didn't raise preflop.

Legendash

04-14-2005, 03:27 PM

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oh yeah, i thought the raise was from UTG+1, not MP3, still he could have had TT, JJ, maybe QQ or AK. I still think you put him on too narrow a range of cards

ville18

04-14-2005, 05:36 PM

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That's true, i didn't even think about she having a set, and that scares me

Greedo017

04-15-2005, 07:41 AM

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flop i'm calling. turn, i think is good. i would like to think i'd fold to the turn reraise, but i'd have to be there to know whether i'd be saavy enough. i'd be getting paranoid about 10-7, 10-2, 10-A, 77, 22. all of those, especially the last three, are likely hands they might have limped with. and i've definitely met some retards who would play 10-7 or 10-2.

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