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Sprayed
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01-02-2009, 07:18 PM
Post subject: Strong draw oop
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SB is 39/9/2.1. What is the proper way to play this?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
MP2 ($9.25)
CO ($10)
Button ($65.40)
SB ($117.40)
Hero (BB) ($50)
UTG ($40.95)
UTG+1 ($9.25)
MP1 ($26.75)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 , 7
2 folds, MP1 raises to $1, 1 fold, CO calls $1, 1 fold, SB calls $0.75, Hero calls $0.50
Flop: ($4) 5 , 2, 9 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, SB raises to $8,
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pokerfan
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i'd probably fold 75s preflop even if its $0.5 more. There are many times You are OOP up against a higher flush draw. As played, i shove over his bet.
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Parasurama
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Easy shove and count the money
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badgers
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shovel. Folding pre seems ridic weak, I like this hand except I'd go $3 on flop.
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damn that smokin' hot hottie in your avatar is so... hot.
Can't see any reason to not shove
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bikes
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a hot damn mess
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shove, take maney
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"the world def needs more bikeses"
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Sprayed
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That's what I figured. Results oriented is starting to set in. On a never ending downswing.
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bigspenda73
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Sprayed why not show us a stack-off range for villains please.
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baudib
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I think if you're not getting it in here then folding preflop is best.
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Playing big pots at small stakes.
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nutsinho
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lol at just shoving
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Renton
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prob call with position
also folding 75s for 1 more bb closing the action multiway in a donkish 50nl game seems preposterous
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For a start id never fold this preflop, id also lead for more on the flop, like $3.2 or something, when the sb checkraises id of thought his range is mostly 2 pairs, sets and combo draws like a3,a4 d's. Against that range were doing preety horribly so im happy in this position to just call his raise and hope to improve/reeval on the turn. Against a more agro villain id play differently.
I think even check folding to a big bet on a blank turn is the right play.
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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
19,800 games 0.005 secs 3,960,000 games/sec
Board: 5h 2d 9d
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.275% 48.82% 00.46% 9666 90.50 { 7d5d }
Hand 1: 50.725% 50.27% 00.46% 9953 90.50 { 99, 55, 22, AdJd, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, 8d6d, 52s, 43s }
pretty hard for him to have other 2 pairs. I'm sure there are far more FDs in his range against which we are a slight favourite but I can't be bothered typing them all lol.
Nutsinho, you think the idea of getting it in is bad or just the action of shoving instead of 3b/call?
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Originally Posted by badgers
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt
19,800 games 0.005 secs 3,960,000 games/sec
Board: 5h 2d 9d
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.275% 48.82% 00.46% 9666 90.50 { 7d5d }
Hand 1: 50.725% 50.27% 00.46% 9953 90.50 { 99, 55, 22, AdJd, AdTd, Ad9d, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad3d, Ad2d, 8d6d, 52s, 43s }
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spenda, stack off range^^^^^?
Looking back at this hand, I felt that I did overplay it considering villain's numbers (I shoved over, he had top set). I like going with a call and reevaluating on the turn.
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bigspenda73
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I really doubt he's raising 43s on the flop at 50nl FR, but yea, that's the exact range I worked up yesterday when I read the thread.
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nutsinho
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i think calling is slightly better than getting it in but neither is bad. its just that shoving is really dumb for balance purposes. if you had 55 or 99 here would you really want to just shove all in?
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My bankroll is the amount of money I would spend or lose before I got a job. It is calculated by adding my net worth to whatever I can borrow.
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i was thinking of the same thing, but what WOULD you do with a set? A smaller raise? Call? Shove?
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