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Old 10-18-2006, 07:39 PM     Post subject: Strange hand but feels standard. #1 (permalink)  
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c/o is a loose/passive donkey, his pfr is 2.4 after a couple hundred hands, button is 21/11 after 500+ hands. So I put button on a squeeze preflop and c/o on a hand that he doesn't want to fold like TT/99/AQs/AK. Given that my call only has to be good about 1 in about 4 times it seems standard. Comments?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP2 ($132.40)
CO ($24.15)
Button ($50)
SB ($49.50)
BB ($64.20)
Hero ($67.65)
UTG+1 ($47.45)
MP1 ($20.90)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J, J.
Hero raises to $2, 3 folds, CO calls $2, Button raises to $8, 2 folds, Hero calls $6, CO raises to $24.15, Button folds, Hero calls $16.15.

Flop: ($57.05) J, 9, A (2 players)

Turn: ($57.05) A (2 players)

River: ($57.05) 7 (2 players)

Final Pot: $57.05
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Old 10-18-2006, 07:52 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I'm not stacking off w/ JJ preflop against someone with 2.4 pfr.

This is a coinflip at best.
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 i think the button folding tells you all you need to know about JJ.
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Insta-call.

This is GAMB00L a lot.

Axs/AT+/KQ/22+

That being said, I usually just drop this to the first raise from the button. The call looks a little south of EV neutral.
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Old 10-18-2006, 09:37 PM #5 (permalink)  
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That being said, I usually just drop this to the first raise from the button. The call looks a little south of EV neutral.
Really? I was check/raising just about any non A/K flop here.

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i think the button folding tells you all you need to know about JJ.
I don't understand this.
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Old 10-18-2006, 11:18 PM #6 (permalink)  
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i think the button folding tells you all you need to know about JJ.
I don't understand this.[/quote]


You're beat. I bet my stack CO is not flipping over anything less than QQ here, maybe AKs, even then you're gamboooling for stacks preflop, not my cup of tea.
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Old 10-18-2006, 11:51 PM #7 (permalink)  
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i think the button folding tells you all you need to know about JJ.
I don't understand this.

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You're beat. I bet my stack CO is not flipping over anything less than QQ here, maybe AKs, even then you're gamboooling for stacks preflop, not my cup of tea.
But the thing is is that it's not for full stacks and I only have to be good a small percentage of the time. All this hand is is a math problem and nobody addressed that now that I already got past the button reraise. The math is all I'm asking about here, it doesn't matter if I'm beaten this time it matters how often I'm beaten so I'm trying not to look at this hand in isolation.
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Insta-call.

This is GAMB00L a lot.

Axs/AT+/KQ/22+

That being said, I usually just drop this to the first raise from the button. The call looks a little south of EV neutral.
i love it when my exact sentiments regarding the HH in question are already represented in someone elses post.
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