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boyobach
Old 09-10-2005, 01:14 AM     Post subject: straight with straight-flush draw...what do I do? #1 (permalink)  

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Background leading up to this hand....

I had made a couple of bad bluff moves and lost a bit of my stack (believe it or not). Was chatting with some of the guys about if i dropped below $250 then i am quitting. One of the guys says how somebody should raise me tha amount.

The villain in the scene had been quite aggressive on a few occasions without showing down...so, not much of a read. But he didn't play many hands so I wasn't sure about 7,8 from UTG.

***** Hand History for Game 2683843350 *****
$50 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, September 09, 20:20:26 EDT 2005
Table Table 36907 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: Icarus37 ( $163.75 )
Seat 5: taffy_jones ( $289.29 )
Seat 7: stanleysick ( $161.25 )
Seat 2: faedundee ( $37.05 )
Seat 4: r1i2f4t8 ( $65.55 )
Seat 3: bennyt_ ( $75.40 )
Seat 8: MHDT60 ( $43.55 )
Seat 6: monologic ( $46.75 )
Seat 10: Kitesurfers ( $84.50 )
r1i2f4t8 posts small blind [$0.25].
taffy_jones posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to taffy_jones [ 9c 3h ]
>You have options at Table 36598 Table!.
>You have options at Table 36598 Table!.
monologic has been reconnected and has 20 seconds to act.
monologic has been reconnected and has 20 seconds to act.
monologic has been reconnected and has 20 seconds to act.
monologic has been reconnected and has 20 seconds to act.
monologic raises [$1].
stanleysick folds.
MHDT60 calls [$1].
Kitesurfers folds.
Icarus37 folds.
faedundee folds.
bennyt_ folds.
>You have options at Table 36598 Table!.
r1i2f4t8 calls [$0.75].
taffy_jones calls [$0.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 6h, 5h, 2h ]
Rok_Strongo has joined the table.
r1i2f4t8 bets [$2].
if i go below 4250, i'm gone
taffy_jones calls [$2].
$250*
monologic raises [$8].
>You have options at Table 36598 Table!.
MHDT60 folds.
r1i2f4t8 folds.
taffy_jones calls [$6].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4d ]
taffy_jones checks.
>You have options at Table 36598 Table!.
then raise him 40 boys
monologic has been reconnected and has 20 seconds to act.
monologic has been reconnected and has 20 seconds to act.
monologic has been reconnected and has 20 seconds to act.
monologic has been reconnected and has 20 seconds to act.
hehe
monologic is all-In ($37.75)

So, what do you guys reckon?
pocket Jacks eh?

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CANT WIN AGAINST 'EM
CANT FOLD 'EM
 
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Old 09-10-2005, 01:22 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Fold preflop, then fold the flop and then finally fold the turn. You are a split at best most of the time.
 
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Old 09-10-2005, 01:25 AM #3 (permalink)  

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yeah, i know my play leadin up to this point left a lot to be desired.

I just thought I'd play a little crazy for a little while with my big stack to get a little life into the table which was starting to get a bit static.

But my question is only in relation to this turn decision
pocket Jacks eh?

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Old 09-10-2005, 01:28 AM #4 (permalink)  
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fold...
 
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Old 09-10-2005, 04:31 AM #5 (permalink)  
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call; a flush doesn't do this. He has a set at best, and wants you to fold, so he doesn't have to see the river.

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Old 09-10-2005, 04:50 AM #6 (permalink)  
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call; a flush doesn't do this. He has a set at best, and wants you to fold, so he doesn't have to see the river.
A set pushing all-in with 3 hearts and a 4 card straight on the board? I doubt it.

A player with a flush might make this play not wanting to get outdrawn, and hoping a player with a straight calls.

But yeah, this is pretty much an automatic fold preflop. And why did you call on the flop?
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Old 09-10-2005, 05:54 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Why did you call on the flop and how can we play together more often?
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boyobach
Old 09-10-2005, 01:49 PM #8 (permalink)  

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Okay, okay....give me a break!

I know my play looks bad, but in the context of the table I think it was ok.
These people were terrified of me!!

I wasn't too worried about he cards in my hand at this point, I was pouncing on any sign of weakness with any old junk. And these people knew I was pepared to play any old junk, which constantly made them unsure of the strength of their own hand.

I called the flop just to see how strong he was on the turn....he was obviously afraid of the hearts, so if a heart came i could test him out.

But, all that is besides the point.
My question is.......do i call this?
pocket Jacks eh?

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boyobach
Old 09-12-2005, 07:32 PM #9 (permalink)  

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call; a flush doesn't do this. He has a set at best, and wants you to fold, so he doesn't have to see the river.
Absolutely correct ensign_lee.

I did call and he showed 2 black tens
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