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Old 09-22-2006, 06:05 PM     Post subject: Standard?: Underpair, Gutshot, and Flush Draw #1 (permalink)  
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Villian is 19.2/11.5/0 after 26 hands

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $15.25
Hero: $25.35
MP1: $21.95
MP2: $7.40
MP3: $6.50
CO: $27.55
Button: $25.40
SB: $21.60
BB: $5.95

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG+1 with T T
UTG folds, Hero raises to $1, 3 folds, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: J 9 7 ($2.35, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, CO raises to $3.25, Hero raises to $10, Long Pause, CO calls.

Turn: 5 ($22.35, 2 players)
Hero is all-in $14.35
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Old 09-24-2006, 10:26 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Preflop: Standard raise good.

Flop: Ouch. Not a good flop. If you had the Ace or even King of diamonds I could justify a call maaaaaybe.....and that was presuming you were drawing live to the flush(if villain had flooped say a set or two pair). Your reraise of him might be better reserved if you had say AA/KK/or even AK with a diamond......his pause and call leads me to believe you are either way ahead or way behind.

Turn: This is ugly. You're only going to get called by a better hand...........

River: pray.....
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Old 09-25-2006, 05:00 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Tough hand, but I think I play it identically. (Puts on flame-retardent suit...)
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Old 09-25-2006, 07:42 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Put villain on a range. Here's mine:

QQ/JJ/99/77/J9s/97s/T8s/Axd/AdJ...anything else I'm missing?

How does your hand compare to villain's range?
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Old 09-25-2006, 07:51 PM #5 (permalink)  

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Ugly.

Just about any card that helps you gives you a non-nut hand that is easily vulnerable. The 4th nut flush here is questionable and not what I'd bet my stack on necessarily OOP. I'd guess you have 3 solid outs (any 8 but the 8d). If your flush hits and holds up, chalk it up to luck IMHO.

For the record, a raise UTG + 1 with TT should be larger unless you have a strong, tight image at the table not that most notice at $25NL. Personally, I raise big or limp (more likely) depending on the table dynamics and such.
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For the record, a raise UTG + 1 with TT should be larger...
why?
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Old 09-27-2006, 07:08 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Ugly.

Just about any card that helps you gives you a non-nut hand that is easily vulnerable. The 4th nut flush here is questionable and not what I'd bet my stack on necessarily OOP. I'd guess you have 3 solid outs (any 8 but the 8d). If your flush hits and holds up, chalk it up to luck IMHO.
Ya I definitely wouldn't want to hit the straight flush.... I would go busto.

I have 6 outs here, and I'm probably ahead. It looks like he's trying to get a free card from me on the turn.

I put him on a diamond draw, I push turn he folds....
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Ya I definitely wouldn't want to hit the straight flush.... I would go busto.
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:50 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Ya I definitely wouldn't want to hit the straight flush.... I would go busto.
no worries, I know what you meant.

I agree its a high risk play, my flush draw is shit, my pair is shit, i'm facing aggression...

..But i had a gut feeling, and whenever I go against my gut, I lose money.
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Old 09-28-2006, 05:54 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Old 09-28-2006, 03:45 PM #11 (permalink)  
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3 betting the flop is a bit scary.. a lot of time when they think a long time before calling they are acting. slow down after the call
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