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Renton
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05-12-2006, 12:11 AM
Post subject: Standard fold right?
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Jesus Christ when will this downswing end?
***** Hand History for Game 4244158056 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, May 11, 20:00:42 ET 2006
Table Raise Over (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: therules ( $304.85 )
Seat 4: mhallsy ( $254.10 )
Seat 5: indeeed ( $579 )
Seat 6: BitesBack2 ( $199 )
Seat 7: Pasch03 ( $184.28 )
Seat 8: amatay ( $238.35 )
Seat 10: tesla3605 ( $612.70 )
Seat 3: Renton555 ( $205 )
Seat 9: camo3 ( $45 )
Seat 1: Phatman ( $0 )
Pasch03 posts small blind [$1].
amatay posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Renton555 [ Qc Qh ]
>You have options at Table 97576 Table!.
camo3 folds.
tesla3605 folds.
therules folds.
>You have options at Table 96275 Table!.
Renton555 raises [$7].
mhallsy calls [$7].
indeeed folds.
BitesBack2 calls [$7].
Pasch03 folds.
amatay folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, Ts, Qd ]
Renton555 bets [$14.50].
mhallsy folds.!.
BitesBack2 calls [$14.50].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]
Renton555 bets [$35.50].
BitesBack2 raises [$71].
Renton555 calls [$35.50].
** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
Renton555 checks.
BitesBack2 is all-In [$106.50]
Renton555 folds.
BitesBack2 does not show cards.
BitesBack2 wins $298.50
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Renton
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Straight Flush
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Oh ya. Villain is 22/7
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Renton
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Straight Flush
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Holy shit it just hit me. He probably had a lesser set here.
god damnit
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NoctoZ
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I dont think you should fold here. Given his actions so far I think a set lower than queens or even a two-pair like QT is more likely than AJ. I think you need a really solid read to be able to lay this one down.
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johnny_fish
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Getting 3:1 and the turn minraise indicates a clear call. I like a turn push too. KQ/QT/lower set/big draws will call.
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Renton
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Straight Flush
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I just had the worst session ever. This was a tilt fold.
His line was an AJ line but it was also a TT/44/KQ line.
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crushednuts
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Really hard to get rid of a set of Queens here. Would he really call your flop bet chasing a gutshot? and if he had KK I bet he would have reraised you preflop. If he didn't and turned a higher set, then that blows.
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bdawg56kg
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Full House
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Why would you not push the turn after you get raised?
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WildBobAA
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I highly doubt villian has AJ here. I'm playing almost the same (20/7) and I'm never cold call a raise with AJ. Idon't think a 22/7 draws at a gutshot on the flop either. You're getting 3:1 on the river which I think is too good to fold this.
I think you should have pushed the turn.
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Cocco_Bill
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Originally Posted by WildBobAA
I highly doubt villian has AJ here. I'm playing almost the same (20/7) and I'm never cold call a raise with AJ. Idon't think a 22/7 draws at a gutshot on the flop either. You're getting 3:1 on the river which I think is too good to fold this.
I think you should have pushed the turn.
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agreed
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nutsinho
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AdJd/44/TT
definite call
play 6max 200nl at party rather than full ring, youll erase the downswing losses in no time
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My bankroll is the amount of money I would spend or lose before I got a job. It is calculated by adding my net worth to whatever I can borrow.
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WildBobAA
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play 6max 200nl at party rather than full ring, youll erase the downswing losses in no time
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Right there's no downswings at 6max....
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natdang
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Agree, I would have punished the fool on the turn. He's obviously in love with his hand, and I'm not one to be greedy...
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jackvance
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Yeah it seems like you were playing scared here. Easy push on the turn. As played, I call this river too I think.
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Sarcasm is your body's natural defense against stupidity
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salsa4ever
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i can't see a reason to not push the turn.
and the fold is terrible.
you're a better player than that come on
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Originally Posted by bigred
Would you bone your cousins? Salsa would.
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Originally Posted by salsa4ever
well courtie, since we're both clear, would you accept an invitation for some unprotected sex?
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thnwkd
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well i wont pile on.
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Success is how high you bounce after hitting bottom.
IslandGrinder
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biondino
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I dunno, I think you might be beaten here. Not sure if it's *likely* but I don't hate your fold as much as everyone else here. But I am a worse player than everyone else here...
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Lukie
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05-13-2006, 05:29 PM
Post subject: Re: Standard fold right?
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#18 (permalink)
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Renton
***** Hand History for Game 4244158056 *****
$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, May 11, 20:00:42 ET 2006
Table Raise Over (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: therules ( $304.85 )
Seat 4: mhallsy ( $254.10 )
Seat 5: indeeed ( $579 )
Seat 6: BitesBack2 ( $199 )
Seat 7: Pasch03 ( $184.28 )
Seat 8: amatay ( $238.35 )
Seat 10: tesla3605 ( $612.70 )
Seat 3: Renton555 ( $205 )
Seat 9: camo3 ( $45 )
Seat 1: Phatman ( $0 )
Pasch03 posts small blind [$1].
amatay posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Renton555 [ Qc Qh ]
>You have options at Table 97576 Table!.
camo3 folds.
tesla3605 folds.
therules folds.
>You have options at Table 96275 Table!.
Renton555 raises [$7].
mhallsy calls [$7].
indeeed folds.
BitesBack2 calls [$7].
Pasch03 folds.
amatay folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, Ts, Qd ]
Renton555 bets [$14.50].
mhallsy folds.!.
BitesBack2 calls [$14.50].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Kc ]
Renton555 bets [$35.50].
BitesBack2 raises [$71].
Renton555 calls [$35.50].
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Jesus Christ when will this downswing end?
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probably when you stop playing your huge pots horribly like the above example
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Renton
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Straight Flush
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i just lost with top set vs the nuts three times in this session before this hand.
I was tilt deluded for folding, and I was even more tilt deluded for posting the damn hand.
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Lukie
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variance is a bitch
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jackvance
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4-of-a-Kind
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I hope you had the resourcefulness to take a nice break after this hand atleast?.. It really helps to calm you down and get back into the right mindset.
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Sarcasm is your body's natural defense against stupidity
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