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mxiu
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06-13-2009, 12:59 AM
Post subject: standard?
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Full House
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opp is 16/9/1 over 200 hands, hasn't 3-bet once.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB ($100)
BB ($31.85)
Hero (UTG) ($165.15)
UTG+1 ($158.55)
MP1 ($104.10)
MP2 ($100)
MP3 ($100.50)
CO ($111.20)
Button ($103.95)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with K , K
Hero bets $4, 1 fold, MP1 raises to $14, 5 folds, BB calls $13, Hero calls $10
Flop: ($42.50) 9 , 6 , 4 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, MP1 bets $22, BB calls $17.85 (All-In), Hero calls $22
Turn: ($104.35) J (3 players, 1 all-in)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $30, Hero folds
River: ($104.35) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: $104.35 | Rake: $3
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you mean standard shove pf? sure
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golfguy37
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hm.... you should definately shove that.
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ZwiFT
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pf is fine, shove flop after action
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mxiu
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by ZwiFT
pf is fine, shove flop after action
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the dead side deterred me from shoving flop. i figured i'd get a good idea what he has on the turn and figured i could play another street.
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sk8r_daniel
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Hmm, as played: I like the fold. You only beat QQ and he isnt bluffing with a side pot.
If you had more hands played I could definitely see calling the flop to see his action on the turn but its tough to say he doesn't 3 bet JJ+ with just 200 hands.
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Deanglow
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dead money so shoooooooooooove preflop
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mxiu
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
dead money so shoooooooooooove preflop
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i usually do, but i popped it UTG and he's never 3-bet once (altho it is a small sample i guess). if we decide to flat, how do you like it as played?
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by mxiu
Quote:
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
dead money so shoooooooooooove preflop
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i usually do, but i popped it UTG and he's never 3-bet once (altho it is a small sample i guess). if we decide to flat, how do you like it as played?
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as played I just ship flop
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Fnord
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If this is standard, this game is in dire need of an ante.
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mxiu
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*shrug* i rarely ever get away from KK vs AA, and as the action played out i was fairly certain this was one of the spots. i guess the thread name shouldn't be "standard", but given the feel of the hand I felt pretty good mucking.
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badgers
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meh i don't hate the way this hand was played, it's quite possible his 3bet range in that spot is entirely KK+ and once we peel the flop and he bets again into the dry sidepot it looks a lot like AA unless he's a level ahead, which i wouldn't expect him to be at this level.
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3k post - Return of the blog!
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mcatdog
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
If this is standard, this game is in dire need of an ante.
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It's not standard except against players whose 3-betting range is KK and AA. If they added an ante, these players would most likely keep the same 3-betting range and lose their money even faster than they do now.
BTW flop is a fold against this nit.
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sk8r_daniel
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Results?
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mxiu
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Full House
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Villain has AA.
Shortstack has 77.
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