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Darby
Old 03-28-2006, 08:20 PM     Post subject: Stacked by Fnord #1 (permalink)  
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#Game No : 3840237069
***** Hand History for Game 3840237069 *****
$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, March 28, 16:07:46 ET 2006
Table Irish Luck (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: unknown1969 ( $154.99 )
Seat 6: BU113T5 ( $97.50 )
Seat 8: fnord ( $152 )
Seat 9: moneyman5540 ( $102.30 )
Seat 5: gt281h80 ( $114.75 )
Seat 4: Kent63 ( $151 )
Seat 10: Zalmaz ( $76.35 )
Seat 1: flynnhead1 ( $97 )
Seat 2: KINGBROCK1 ( $99 )
Seat 7: Steve9393 ( $99 )
flynnhead1 posts small blind [$0.50].
KINGBROCK1 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to gt281h80 [ :Kh: :Ah: ]
unknown1969 folds.
Kent63 folds.
gt281h80 raises [$3].
BU113T5 folds.
Steve9393 folds.
fnord raises [$10].
Zalmaz folds.
flynnhead1 folds.
KINGBROCK1 folds.
gt281h80 calls [$7].
** Dealing Flop ** [ :Jd:, :Qd:, :Td: ]
gt281h80 bets [$15].
fnord calls [$15].
** Dealing Turn ** [ ]
gt281h80 bets [$25].
fnord calls [$25].
** Dealing River ** [ ]
gt281h80 checks.
fnord bets [$47.49].
gt281h80 calls [$47.49].
fnord shows [ Ac, Ad ] a flush, ace high.
gt281h80 doesn't show [ Kh, Ah ] a straight, ten to ace.
fnord wins $193.48 from the main pot with a flush, ace high.
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Old 03-28-2006, 08:45 PM #2 (permalink)  
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On the flop id be potting that, with a call I would slow waaaay down. On the turn with 4 cards to a flush showing you cant bet, especially a 1/2 pot bet. As played if you are checking this river you are inviting somebody to bet because that just shows weakness. I really think you need to check it down on the turn and fold to any sizeable bet.
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Old 03-28-2006, 08:49 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Pot was 20 on the flop so I bet 3/4... Man being OOP sucks ass...

I feel like on the turn, we each have ~90ish left, if I check, he'll push me off with any two... Maybe I should check/fold the river, but once again after checking he might bet with air...

I got owned, plain and simple, but I'd love more advice about this hand.
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Old 03-28-2006, 08:49 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 Fnord calls big bet on flop with three to a suit on the board.

Fnord calls big bet on turn with four to a suit on the board.

Fnord obviously doesn't give a rat's ass that there is a flush possibility on the board.

Which is why you hafta fold that river.
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Old 03-28-2006, 08:54 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Fnord shows either
:Ad: :Ac: (ish) or :Kd: :Kc: (ish)
Woops!
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Old 03-28-2006, 09:01 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I feel like on the turn, we each have ~90ish left, if I check, he'll push me off with any two... Maybe I should check/fold the river, but once again after checking he might bet with air...
Again, I just dont think leading with a bet on a board showing 4 to a flush is smart. This is a scary board, and without knowing Fnord's hand, it is scary for him too. If he doesnt have a card of that suit,then I dont think he will be betting because thats agood spot to be check-raised, I could be wrong on that though. And as played I guess you have to call that river, but I dont like how it got there, I think after the flop you should be in check/fold mode.
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Old 03-28-2006, 09:05 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 Bet the pot on the flop and don't put anymore money into the pot when the fourth diamond comes up. Fnord, what's with the weird off-dollar river bet?


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Old 03-28-2006, 10:43 PM #8 (permalink)  
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What is Fnord's 3-betting range preflop and how has he been playing? If you think AA/KK makes up a large portion of his range, then I think this is a pretty clear fold preflop. If he has QQ or less, he isn't putting much in if you flop TPTK, and your reverse implied odds could be potentially disasterous should you flop TPTK and still be beat. Not to mention you will be out of position for the whole hand...not fun against a thinking player.

As played, I like your flop lead, although I don't mind leading for a bit more. Turn, meh. Check/fold is okay, but I think betting out is fine too, since I think Fnord drops all non-diamond hands, but then that brings up the question, do you think he'd call the flop without a diamond? On the river, definitely fold. A good opponent is almost never bluffing here, and almost never calling your turn bet without a high diamond that he wants to show down.
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Old 03-28-2006, 11:28 PM #9 (permalink)  
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I don't recall this hand and the are some other small details in the play of the hand that further support that it's not me.

PF my re-raise range really depends on what I think of your raise range.

I probably would have just come over-the-top of your flop lead.
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Old 03-29-2006, 12:04 AM #10 (permalink)  
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 ALL streets are debatable, except the river, where you have a clear fold.

And I will agree with Fnord, including results, this does not look like him playing...
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Old 03-29-2006, 01:09 AM #11 (permalink)  
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Damn, I was stacked by an imposter. It happened this afternoon on party, screen name was-- "fnord"
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Old 03-29-2006, 01:40 AM     Post subject: pot the flop #12 (permalink)  
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I'd pot the flop, but when there's 4 suits out there I slow way, way down.
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:40 AM #13 (permalink)  
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I can agree with you on your turn bet. That's what happens when you're OOP.

However, you can't possibly call that river bet. He doesn't give a rat's ass about the flush on teh board, but YOU do. The turn killed you, pure and simple.

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Old 03-29-2006, 03:23 AM #14 (permalink)  
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FLop is easy push.I doubt Fnord flopped a flush;and if he wants to gamble let him call off on the draw.

THat being said turn is a fold.River call is ugly.
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