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07-21-2006, 10:35 PM Post subject: Stacked with AK

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PokerStars Game #5634138729: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2006/07/21 - 18:25:23 (ET)
Table 'Antenor II' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: skybalin ($9.65 in chips)
Seat 2: wetbrain8413 ($8.80 in chips)
Seat 3: sebas6789 ($9.75 in chips)
Seat 4: cheo567 ($4 in chips)
Seat 5: simboot ($9.75 in chips)
Seat 7: YoungGun5 ($23.20 in chips)
Seat 8: Zaniite24 ($6.05 in chips)
Seat 9: Y'knoMySteez ($11.25 in chips)
sebas6789: posts small blind $0.05
cheo567: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Y'knoMySteez [Ac Ks]
simboot: folds
YoungGun5: calls $0.10
Zaniite24: folds
Y'knoMySteez: raises $0.30 to $0.40
skybalin: folds
wetbrain8413: calls $0.40
sebas6789: folds
cheo567: folds
YoungGun5: calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [2d As 2s]
YoungGun5: checks
Y'knoMySteez: bets $1
wetbrain8413: folds
YoungGun5: raises $1.20 to $2.20
Y'knoMySteez: raises $2.80 to $5
YoungGun5: calls $2.80
*** TURN *** [2d As 2s] [8c]
YoungGun5: checks
Y'knoMySteez: bets $5.85 and is all-in
YoungGun5: calls $5.85
*** RIVER *** [2d As 2s 8c] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
YoungGun5: shows [2c 5c] (three of a kind, Deuces)
Y'knoMySteez: mucks hand
YoungGun5 collected $21.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $23.05 | Rake $1.10
Board [2d As 2s 8c 3d]
Seat 1: skybalin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: wetbrain8413 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: sebas6789 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: cheo567 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: simboot folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: YoungGun5 showed [2c 5c] and won ($21.95) with three of a kind, Deuces
Seat 8: Zaniite24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Y'knoMySteez mucked [Ac Ks]

I don't know, how do you put the guy on a deuce, I don't get it. Pre flop, the guy limps out of position with garbage, then calls a raise out of position, only to get super lucky. I mean, what do you put the guy on? I put him on a pocket pair and was wrong, obviously, but how poorly did I play this?

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Warpe

07-21-2006, 10:45 PM

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...but they were SOOTED!

Seriously, expect anything at these stakes.

Miffed22001

07-21-2006, 10:49 PM

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you only get called when you are beaten.

FlopTurnThenRivered

07-21-2006, 10:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

you only get called when you are beaten.

Yeah, true.. I just had a really hard time believing he had a deuce.

Miffed, how would you have played this?

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07-21-2006, 10:54 PM

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wholly depends upon what i think of my opponent.
if you think your good, then call and c/r all in on turn.

If you dont then prob fold flop as you are only getting a 2nd barell from opp on turn.
He wants to play a big pot even at these small stakes, where as we dont really.

littlewashu

07-22-2006, 01:28 AM

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yea but really how many people are going to call with crap like that????

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07-22-2006, 01:35 AM

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yea but really how many people are going to call with crap like that????

it isnt about what he has or doesnt have its about us making the correct decision under the circumstances.

With the texture of the flop if we call the flop raise and c/r all in on a non danger card then i think we played it ok for the stakes.
If we bitch he called with 25s or wateva then we miss the fact he is making a largely losing play against us here with his hand.

Lukie

07-22-2006, 05:47 AM

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25s can double up off me every time here...

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07-22-2006, 06:36 AM

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A: you are playing micro limits wtf do you expect...4X raises get zero respect at this limit

B: you fell in love with A/K (offsuit) and apparently ignored the texture of the flop. All you saw was that you hit TPTK and basically closed your eyes to the possibility of someone calling your PFR with a deuce. With 2 callers to your textbook 4X raise why are you surpised that one of them maybe just maybe might have a deuce ?

C: you only raised 4X with a premium hand at a low limit game...you think anybody with suited cards is going to fold to a meager .30 cent raise ? wake up and smell the coffee bruther. at this limit you can't be shocked when a player calls a 4X raise with garbage.

D: you didn't give him any credit whatsoever for the flop check raise/flat call and you are somehow shocked that he has the audacity to call a .10 cent limp with a suited gapper as if this is such a horrible play to limp with a potential flush/straight hand for a measly dime.

E: you lead out with a standard bet on the flop...get check raised (hellllo danger danger will robinson)...then you flat call the RR and yet still fire out on the turn thinking TPTK is golden despite the check raise. The all in on the turn is tragic.

Sorry man you got totally pwnd on this hand. This is not a $25/$50 table its .05/.10 why are you so shocked that someone is gambling with a low suited gapper.

The move here is to check on the turn and if he comes out firing just let it go. This is not a bluff you are behind....end of story. The check raise and flat call to your re-reraise should have made your ass pucker up tighter than a frogs asshole...but you were blind and still came out swinging on the turn. big mistake

hope this helps

gg

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07-22-2006, 03:51 PM

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miffed he can't c/r since he is in position - unless i'm reading it wrong. yes, you should expect bad play at micro-stakes, but like miffed said this should be about making the correct decision, and i think in this hand you should not have to lose a stack. i think after your 3-bet on the flop you are in trouble with his call and your putting a bunch of your stack in the middle. maybe don't build such a big pot so early on?

reloaded, you have a pretty harsh tone pal - maybe work on that so you have a nice stay at ftr?

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Miffed22001

07-22-2006, 07:07 PM

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Sorry man you got totally pwnd on this hand.

This is wrong, he got given enough information to throw his hand in the muck but played the hand badly on early streets.
Also, at these stakes i think he may lose a stack anyway because enough horrible players get all in here with A5o type hands.

FlopTurnThenRivered

07-23-2006, 10:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Miffed22001

Quote:

Sorry man you got totally pwnd on this hand.

Truthfully, my thinking was that he was check/raising me to see where his pocket pair was at (fairly logical.. no? This is a play I make often enough). When I re-raise here lots of players will simply flat call, which he did. Then he checked the turn, so I assumed my AK was good. And Miffed, it is very true that many players will get their money in the pot with A bad kicker here.

I suppose I should have flat called the raise on the flop and let the hand develop from there, try get more information and play a smaller pot.

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