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twosevoff
Old 10-20-2004, 12:33 PM     Post subject: Spotting a check-raise bluff #1 (permalink)  
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Yeah, yeah, I know playing 28s voluntarily from anywhere is fishy, let alone cold-calling a raise (tho only a min one) with it. I was just calling to outplay postflop--either catch a flop and rake in a big pot or take away the pot--but that's not why I'm posting this hand. Sometimes you just know when someone comes over the top of you on a board like this after raising preflop that they're counting on you having bluffed at it. This is why if you're going to make a big move on someone and are going to committ most of your chips, it's probably a better idea to just go all-in so the other guy doesn't have the possibility of restealing it on you. No f'in way he has a 3 here was my thinking:

***** Hand History for Game 1073307832 *****
$100 NL Hold'em - Monday, October 18, 13:19:09 EDT 2004
Table Table 14137 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: NotTooGood27 ( $164.2 )
Seat 3: tvd25dpu ( $233.55 )
Seat 6: trachea ( $79.78 )
Seat 8: gizmo62 ( $97.05 )
Seat 5: JussFoldem ( $70 )
tvd25dpu posts small blind [$1].
JussFoldem posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NotTooGood27 [ 8h 2h ]
>You have options at Table 14203 (6 max) Table!.
trachea raises [$4].
gizmo62 folds.
NotTooGood27 calls [$4].
tvd25dpu folds.
>You have options at Table 14203 (6 max) Table!.
>You have options at Table 14143 (6 max) Table!.
Allaces10 has joined the table.
>You have options at Table 14203 (6 max) Table!.
JussFoldem calls [$2].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4s, 2d, 6h ]
JussFoldem checks.
>You have options at Table 14203 (6 max) Table!.
>You have options at Table 14143 (6 max) Table!.
trachea bets [$6].
NotTooGood27 calls [$6].
JussFoldem calls [$6].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]
JussFoldem checks.
trachea checks.
>You have options at Table 14143 (6 max) Table!.
>You have options at Table 14203 (6 max) Table!.
NotTooGood27 bets [$15].
JussFoldem folds.
>You have options at Table 14203 (6 max) Table!.
trachea raises [$45].
NotTooGood27 raises [$75].
>You have options at Table 14203 (6 max) Table!.
trachea folds.
>You have options at Table 14143 (6 max) Table!.
NotTooGood27 does not show cards.
NotTooGood27 wins $164
>You have options at Table 14203 (6 max) Table!.
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LeFou
Old 10-21-2004, 12:50 PM #2 (permalink)  
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When I do the CR bluff, it's almost always on the flop. It's cheaper. A decent CR should leave you head up against top pair, and if the turn doesn't pair the top card a sizable bet there takes it down pretty often.

I say pretty often even though I haven't made this play hundreds of times yet.
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