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mxiu
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08-08-2009, 03:41 AM
Post subject: this spot makes me so sick, deep.
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Full House
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villain is el greco, runs 14/11/3 over a big sample
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG+1 ($167.45)
MP1 ($203)
MP2 ($76.05)
MP3 ($219.40)
Hero (CO) ($404.20)
Button ($298.65)
SB ($200)
BB ($203)
UTG ($467.30)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 8 , 8
UTG bets $8, 4 folds, Hero calls $8, 1 fold, SB calls $7, 1 fold
Flop: ($26) 2, 8 , A (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $17, Hero calls $17, 1 fold
Turn: ($60) 10 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $36, UTG raises to $98, Hero calls $62
River: ($256) 3 (2 players)
UTG bets $344.30 (All-In), Hero...
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pokerfan
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this is sooo sick,man. In the heat of the moment, I'd probably bet much more on this drawy turn, shove over and close my eyes. Hmmm, I just cant remember how many times i run dogshit like this in some similar set over set spots. However, i still think that a 14/11/3 is capable of c/ring with other worse hands (22, KdQd,KdJd, AcKc, ATs or other combo draws) especially when your turn bet is so small. As played, i call and dont feel happy at all. If a 10/8/2 nit c/r me on the turn, i might find the fold button quickly.
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bigspenda73
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I'd fold and thank him for taking the only line that could make you do so
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I probably fold?! It matters whether he opens 22-55 UTG; but most people don't.
however, he probably plays TT this way every time
not sure about AA I'd say half of the time he'd fire turn, but c/r is good when you expect people to float with their flush draws instead of checking them back
this is AT sometimes on the turn, on the river about never, that would be turning his hand into a bluff, when he could c/c since both flush draws missed
so his value range is heavily weighed towards AA/TT
he can definitely bluff a picked up flush draw, but most people just barrel those instead of c/ring
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because people in nitring don't bluff
also, are we calling with AT? it's the same hand in this spot
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Fnord
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Nevermind. set of 8s < set of Ts
If you plays AT like this is a durrrsick bluff.
FOLD
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dontezuma
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Really? Are we putting him on AA only? He bets TT like that? Man, I'm NEVER good enough to put a guy on only AA or TT. I know we're deep but those are the only two hands that beat us and there are exactly 6 hand combos that beat us. I mean, damn...
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Originally Posted by dontezuma
He bets TT like that?
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yes, he continuation bet the flop and raised when he hit his set
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Fnord
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It's online full ring and he raised UTG. That narrows his holdings a lot because he can't be raising with a wide range or he will run into too many hands and can't count on a lot of mistake equity from his opponents. (In a softer/looser game he could play a wider range profitably even from UTG, but still shouldn't get too crazy.)
The game isn't soft enough to play much more than a core range like:
99+, AQ+, KQs
with a rare other hand in mixed in.
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mxiu
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I really need to slow things down when the pots are deep and his hand is really staring me in the face sometimes. I can stack off with TT without feeling too bad cuz he can do this with 88.. but if I'm holding 88, I'm basically catching a bluff for a 150bb bet on the river.
My biggest pot lost online so far =[
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by mxiu
My biggest pot lost online so far =[
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The first time I lost 2K in a pot it was the most retarded call I will ever make.
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pokerfan
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
Quote:
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Originally Posted by mxiu
My biggest pot lost online so far =[
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The first time I lost 2K in a pot it was the most retarded call I will ever make. |
my biggest loss online is $600 in FR 1/2NL. AA Top set with nuts flush + straight redraw on the turn facing c/r all-in.  Last month I stacked off with mid and bottom sets 6 times right on the flop and never hit quads. Fucking retarded FR games.
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bikes
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a hot damn mess
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easy fold vs grec c'mon dude
pay less attn to absolute hand strength and more to relative and you realize all you have is a bluff catcher to the range hes repping
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"the world def needs more bikeses"
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mxiu
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yea i know that now bickes, i was playing like a retard
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by mxiu
yea i know that now bickes, i was playing like a retard
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