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03-25-2008, 12:14 AM
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So what would happen if a decent winner at 100nl and 200nl went back and grinded it out multi-tabling from 2nl up?
After having almost 2 weeks off due to moving and not having an Internet connection, it's gotten pretty hard to grind on a regular basis, so I need some motivation.
So I'm going to try to run up a virtual $50 bankroll starting at 2nl full ring to whatever I can get it to by the end of the month. I'll "move up" when my virtual bankroll reaches 20 buy-ins for the next level. The idea for me is to get back in the habit of playing a shitload of hands each day, but maybe someone will learn something from this.
Now, starting tomorrow I'm going to be grinding only 2nl full ring until I get up to $100 for 5nl, $200 for 10nl, $500 for 25nl, and $1000 for 50nl if I get that far. Good luck me.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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tl;dr
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I was expecting this to be about anal sex 
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id say suicide before NL50. Just get a stake. Or CCs like i do.
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Were these two posts supposed to go in that order... 
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Were these two posts supposed to go in that order... |
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Why would you do that to yourself?
See how long it takes you to grind a roll for 1kNL from 100NL (assuming you're still rolled for 100NL).
...Or d'u just wanna have some fun watching the microdonks throwing their money around like they're playing hot potato?
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Why would you do that to yourself?
See how long it takes you to grind a roll for 1kNL from 100NL (assuming you're still rolled for 100NL).
...Or d'u just wanna have some fun watching the microdonks throwing their money around like they're playing hot potato?
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I'm rolled for yourmomNL but I'm a more conservative playa than that.
Also, if I ran from 2nl to say 50nl in a week or so, wouldn't that show that some people are spending too long at 10nl and below?
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Also, if I ran from 2nl to say 50nl in a week or so, wouldn't that show that some people are spending too long at 10nl and below?
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Ah...tryin' to encourage more low stakers to move up so you can prey on us at higher limits...that makes sense 
I'm workin' on it man! 
But why would you perform an experiment you already know the results to? I mean barring some horrible shitstreak, you'll move up the ranks far faster than the vast majority of us playing the lower levels (other than veterans rebuilding rolls..).
Do the math on how many hours you're goin' to spend grinding for pennies. You were the one who convinced me that if I'm gunna have this game as a hobby, I might as well get paid for it -- & you get paid more the higher you go. You mentioned having trouble finding the motivation to grind 100NL anymore? Can't see how the micros would be any better...
(now I'm tryin' to keep yer shark ass outta my limits ) 
...but don't play my mom -- waaaaay too cheap fer realz
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prob with your hypothesis is that you're already a winning player at the higher stake. So just because you can move up in one week doesn't mean someone new to the level can.
Also, didn't you just run from 10NL to 100NL super quick?
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just make a prop bet with me on hours played or # of hands, that way you can get in hands at stakes that matter. even if you lose the bet, im sure the money youd make would outweigh the opportunity cost of playing at 2nl
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I think I get where you're coming from. I don't play anywhere near as many hands/hours as you, but every now and then I lose the motivation. Luckily, about the time that I start to burn out actually having to almost think while playing, that is the time that Partypoker throws a small no deposit bonus at me. So I usually play 10-25NL on it and try to make as much as I can out of it, and hopefully clear it.
Then I immediately withdraw profits after the bonus clearing time has passed. Also gives me a nice little bit of money to throw around, as I don't withdraw all that often.
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dude just do whatever option makes you the most money, not this shit.
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dude just do whatever option makes you the most money, not this shit.
IMO
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dude just do whatever option makes you the most money, not this shit.
IMO
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It's +EV in long run imo.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Also, if I ran from 2nl to say 50nl in a week or so, wouldn't that show that some people are spending too long at 10nl and below?
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Ah...tryin' to encourage more low stakers to move up so you can prey on us at higher limits...that makes sense
I'm workin' on it man!
But why would you perform an experiment you already know the results to? I mean barring some horrible shitstreak, you'll move up the ranks far faster than the vast majority of us playing the lower levels (other than veterans rebuilding rolls..).
Do the math on how many hours you're goin' to spend grinding for pennies. You were the one who convinced me that if I'm gunna have this game as a hobby, I might as well get paid for it -- & you get paid more the higher you go. You mentioned having trouble finding the motivation to grind 100NL anymore? Can't see how the micros would be any better...
(now I'm tryin' to keep yer shark ass outta my limits )
...but don't play my mom -- waaaaay too cheap fer realz |
I believe it's +EV for me in the long run (relatively short run, say the next 4 weeks at the most). DOUCY?
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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dude just do whatever option makes you the most money, not this shit.
IMO
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It's +EV in long run imo. |
its a waste of time imo.
still best of luck and let us know how if the 20BI rule is still playable.
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will follow with interest
not sure about the +EV, but have fun regardless!
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Well for those of us who've worked our way through 2NL, 5NL, 10NL and are on 25NL (or higher) in the last year or so - we're prob all looking forward to seeing how you adapt.
How many tables are you going to be playing? 16+? or cutting down given the "easy" competition?
Given you're usually 17/15 or whatever - will you be nitting it up more as people play less attention to your ranges and your semi-bluffs etc get called more?
How do you think this experiment will effect your usual game? Is it just to be better about those players who've moved up recently?
Cheers, and look forward to your results
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GL Spoon!
I can understand that it's boring winning, winning and winning a bit more and that you need a motivation
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dude just do whatever option makes you the most money, not this shit.
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It's +EV in long run imo. |
its a waste of time imo.
still best of luck and let us know how if the 20BI rule is still playable. |
Nobody has figured out why it's +EV yet.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Well for those of us who've worked our way through 2NL, 5NL, 10NL and are on 25NL (or higher) in the last year or so - we're prob all looking forward to seeing how you adapt.
How many tables are you going to be playing? 16+? or cutting down given the "easy" competition?
Given you're usually 17/15 or whatever - will you be nitting it up more as people play less attention to your ranges and your semi-bluffs etc get called more?
How do you think this experiment will effect your usual game? Is it just to be better about those players who've moved up recently?
Cheers, and look forward to your results |
I'll be 16-tabling. I'm not sure how I'm going to run just yet in terms of stats, but we'll see.
The bold is key to why I think this is +EV.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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GL Spoon!
I can understand that it's boring winning, winning and winning a bit more and that you need a motivation |
Motivation is important, but it's not really a lack of motivation that's hurting me currently.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Update: March 25, 2008, 10:00 AM
2nl, 925 hands, +$6.93
lol i run soooooo bad. these guys are so horrible it's lol
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Suggestion: Mix in some 6 max.
You have stated in the past that you want to get into playing 6 max. So heres the perfect oppertunity to do it.
GLGL...
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Suggestion: Mix in some 6 max.
You have stated in the past that you want to get into playing 6 max. So heres the perfect oppertunity to do it.
GLGL...
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Sry wes but that's a pretty gay idea.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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GL Spoon!
I can understand that it's boring winning, winning and winning a bit more and that you need a motivation |
Motivation is important, but it's not really a lack of motivation that's hurting me currently. |
What is hurting you now then? Maybe playing from 2NL to 50NL you'll have different stats and you want to confuse the multi-tablers that have already stats on you?
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GL Spoon!
I can understand that it's boring winning, winning and winning a bit more and that you need a motivation |
Motivation is important, but it's not really a lack of motivation that's hurting me currently. |
What is hurting you now then? Maybe playing from 2NL to 50NL you'll have different stats and you want to confuse the multi-tablers that have already stats on you? |
Stamina.
Unlike during sex, I've lost the ability to rape people for hours and hours at the poker table.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Suggestion: Mix in some 6 max.
You have stated in the past that you want to get into playing 6 max. So heres the perfect oppertunity to do it.
GLGL...
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Sry wes but that's a pretty gay idea. |
Why is it gay???
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Unlike during sex, I've lost the ability to rape people for hours and hours at the poker table.
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at least reading this thread has become +ev 
Seriously, I cant see why u believe this experiment to be +ev for yourself. I can see how it will increase your understanding and feeling for dynamics at micro tables and you will be able to give even better advice as ur already giving on 2NL and 5NL hands.
How many hrs or hands will u spend on this journey? Whats ur expected net loss compared to grinding 5hrs/day @ 4ptBB/100?
When ur lacking stamina at the tables, how many hrs will u spend at 2NL thru 50NL, when u could be studying the game, discussing hands, looking for new problems and solving them and does playing worse opponents really generate motivation/stamina? Dont u think the relative ease of competition will make things worse?
Does this all make up for picking up spots where your 100NL regs stopped advancing?
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I believe it's +EV for me in the long run (relatively short run, say the next 4 weeks at the most). DOUCY?
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IDONOTCY, but I'm sure there's a method to your madness...
If I had to guess (and it seems that you want me to), I'd say you figure this will give you a new, fresh, outlook on the game, and renew your interest by forcing you to adapt to the fairly different playing styles of the microdonks.
Kind of reminds me of the chris ferguson full tilt experiment where it took him like 9 months playing freerolls to finally build up to $100.
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What is hurting you now then? Maybe playing from 2NL to 50NL you'll have different stats and you want to confuse the multi-tablers that have already stats on you? |
How the hell will a $100NL regular get different stats from Spoon playing $2NL?
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What is hurting you now then? Maybe playing from 2NL to 50NL you'll have different stats and you want to confuse the multi-tablers that have already stats on you? |
How the hell will a $100NL regular get different stats from Spoon playing $2NL? |
He mentioned to move to 50NL didn't he?
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its +EV in the long run
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Update: March 25, 2008, 1:45 PM
2nl, 4098 hands, +$21.77
I'm running bad on all-ins but that's to be expected since I suck at life obv. Today is the oldest of my two brothers' 18th birthday, so I'm off for some pizza for a little bit.
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Holy piss you can play a lot of hands 82-tabling.
If you really wanna show us n00bs how fast we should be crawling out of the slums, you should play the avg number of tables that most of us do  We don't have the advanced brainpower the spooney does to make difficult post-flop decisions at breakneck speeds while folding 10 other hands.
...I guess you could just multiply the amount of time it'll take you by 3 or 4 to get pretty close. ...failing of course to adjust for the presumably increased winrate from playing fewer tables.
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If you're looking to remotivate yourself, I think a holiday from poker would do you more good than this exercise.
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Isnt this gonna hurt your bill paying abilities???
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I just wanna know who the little Japanese girl is in Spoon's posts. Is she from the Super Terrific Happy Hour?
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Sue me if I play too long....
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I'm thinking of a better experiment: Play 100NL and see how fast you can move to 2000NL. That one is more motivating and profitable.
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If you really wanna show us n00bs how fast we should be crawling out of the slums, you should play the avg number of tables that most of us do We don't have the advanced brainpower the spooney does to make difficult post-flop decisions at breakneck speeds while folding 10 other hands. |
# of hands should be all anyone needs for comparison. It doesn't matter if he played them in a day or a year.
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If you're looking to remotivate yourself, I think a holiday from poker would do you more good than this exercise.
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The point is that I've already went almost 2 weeks without playing poker this month.
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Isnt this gonna hurt your bill paying abilities???
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Of course not. If taking a week off was going to do that, then what business would I have playing at all?
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I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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Originally Posted by d0zer
If you really wanna show us n00bs how fast we should be crawling out of the slums, you should play the avg number of tables that most of us do We don't have the advanced brainpower the spooney does to make difficult post-flop decisions at breakneck speeds while folding 10 other hands. |
# of hands should be all anyone needs for comparison. It doesn't matter if he played them in a day or a year. |
Pretty much. There's much more to this than "showing noobs how fast they should be crawling out of the slums".
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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spoonitnow
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: IRC Chat Room
Posts: 5,406
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Originally Posted by deacon_bluez
I just wanna know who the little Japanese girl is in Spoon's posts. Is she from the Super Terrific Happy Hour?
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I don't know, I stole the sig from someone at Subfighter.
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Originally Posted by Deanglow
I'm thinking of a better experiment: Play 100NL and see how fast you can move to 2000NL. That one is more motivating and profitable.
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It depends on your goals for poker. Mine don't include pushing up to 2knl, so this wouldn't be particularly motivating for me.
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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spoonitnow
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: IRC Chat Room
Posts: 5,406
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Okay so let's drop a bomb. I'm being 100% serious with this statement:
I don't particularly like poker, but it's better than alternatives for me at this point. For me, poker is a means to an end, and not much else.
Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I only have 2 simple rules when I am coaching a new student.
Rule # 1: don't ask questions
Rule # 2: don't ask questions
I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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frosst
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Straight
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: count-n mah monies stewie-style
Posts: 220
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
Okay so let's drop a bomb. I'm being 100% serious with this statement:
I don't particularly like poker, but it's better than alternatives for me at this point. For me, poker is a means to an end, and not much else.
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motivation is key for success. i understand where you're coming from. i quit college halfway through. i was studying to be a civil engineer. my gpa was a 3.2, i had a full ride but i decided thats not what i wanted to do for the rest of my life, so i walked away
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Straight
Join Date: Jul 2005
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i dont likes pokers either. but i do play everyday
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d0zer
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,523
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Originally Posted by spoonitnow
I don't particularly like poker, but it's better than alternatives for me at this point. For me, poker is a means to an end, and not much else.
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Now I think you're even f'n crazier for playing below what you're rolled for.
Hmmm...You could shovel shit for $2/hr, or for $70/hr. Tough call.
Spoon, FFS -- cut out this cliffhanger BS and write the long, pedantic (but enlightening) post you inevitably will, explaining this seemingly time-waster of an experiment.
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