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Old 07-24-2009, 09:10 AM     Post subject: Spewy Bluff? #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is a 20/17 semi regular

I think this was a really bad bluff since most villains should have a set/two pair here and be like oh shit the flush hit. Then they'd block bet, get shoved on, hate life, and go whatever i has a set and hit the call button

Can I fold anywhere? Or did he price us in all the way to the river?

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saw flop

Hero (CO) ($50)
Button ($48.85)
SB ($57.55)
BB ($66.95)
UTG ($56.75)
UTG+1 ($54.15)
MP1 ($21.30)
MP2 ($63.95)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, 8
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.50, Hero bets $3, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $2.50, MP2 calls $2.50

Flop: ($9.75) 10, 9, 2 (3 players)
UTG+1 bets $7.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $7.50

Turn: ($24.75) 8 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $8.50, Hero calls $8.50

River: ($41.75) A (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $3, Hero raises to $31 (All-In)

Total pot: $103.75 | Rake: $3
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Old 07-24-2009, 02:49 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 folding flop isn't awful here. You have dirty outs. Raising is ok too, but meh. A reg is donking a FD here a bunch so you're going to get into all sorts of trouble if 5c hits and you decide to rep.
Your question re being priced in on the flop, you weren't...

Bluffing this river is only good if you think he's going to fold. Sounds like you don't think so. Also remember that he has QcKc here a bunch, as well as sets.
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:41 PM #3 (permalink)  
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If you think he's donking draws you can maybe fold flop but he's likely to be barrelling a Q and maybe a 7 so call is still ok. If you think his range is really strong like 2pair and sets a lot then ldo call with fairly disguised draw. By the sound of your post it's the latter so hand is fine until river which is a fold or call for lols/information.

Something I repeatedly fuck up is raising stupid bets like this but it's such a transparent thought process (AHA you are WEAK... I'M ALL IN!!) that villains call down a lot even if their original intention was to fold.
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Old 07-24-2009, 07:52 PM #4 (permalink)  
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a lot of people will expect you to raise a flush draw here so shoving seems like a bad idea because he wouldn't expect you to have a flush even though you can definitely have one

that's why flatting with a flush draw on the flop is probably good and shoving river for value when you hit it
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 i really like this line

pretty sure villain is a pussy and block bet that river with the intent on folding.


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Old 07-24-2009, 08:43 PM #6 (permalink)  
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i really like this line

pretty sure villain is a pussy and block bet that river with the intent on folding.
I really hate it
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