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dalecooper

01-13-2005, 06:05 PM Post subject: Spectacularly weird hand

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Who does things like this..? It cost me very little so I don't really care, but still... just odd play. If the poker gods were handing out lessons, that river card would have been a 4.

***** Hand History for Game 1430858338 *****
$25 PL Hold'em - Thursday, January 13, 14:03:33 EDT 2005
Table Buttered popcorn (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 7: JeffBoski ( $26.9 )
Seat 2: stressball10 ( $48.3 )
Seat 10: kinell ( $5.03 )
Seat 1: iouandu ( $62.25 )
Seat 9: NucMedTech ( $23.2 )
Seat 6: Ambertize ( $22.25 )
Seat 4: gsd_csd ( $24.5 )
Seat 8: mdmitch ( $26.9 )
Seat 5: kodibear554 ( $19.5 )
Seat 3: barrcode ( $25 )
stressball10 posts small blind [$0.25].
gsd_csd posts big blind [$0.5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to stressball10 [ Ac 4s ]
kodibear554 calls [$0.5].
Ambertize folds.
JeffBoski folds.
mdmitch calls [$0.5].
NucMedTech folds.
iouandu folds.
stressball10 calls [$0.25].
gsd_csd checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 7s, Js ]
stressball10 checks.
gsd_csd checks.
kodibear554 checks.
mdmitch checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ]
stressball10 bets [$1].
gsd_csd folds.
kodibear554 calls [$1].
mdmitch folds.
** Dealing River ** [ Ks ]
stressball10 checks.
kodibear554 bets [$3].
stressball10 calls [$3].
kodibear554 shows [ Kd, As ] two pairs, aces and kings.
stressball10 doesn't show [ Ac, 4s ] a pair of aces.
kodibear554 wins $9.5 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and kings.

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Corey

01-13-2005, 06:15 PM

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that 4 would have screwed you bud.

umm i dont see why this post was good except you got owned and yes your lucky it didnt cost you a lot.

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dalecooper

01-13-2005, 06:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Corey

that 4 would have screwed you bud.

umm i dont see why this post was good except you got owned and yes your lucky it didnt cost you a lot.

I'm confused...

- the 4 would have given me two pair, and not him
- the point of the post was that this was a really curious way to play AK, especially when he flopped an ace. No pre-flop raise, no bet on the flop, smooth call on the turn? He gave me, essentially, five free cards when he held the best hand. Absolutely bizarre. I've seen people slowplay TPTK before but this takes the cake.

Corey

01-13-2005, 06:56 PM

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kodibear554 shows [ Kd, As ] two pairs, aces and kings

I repeat again, read your own post before you post. It would have screwed you. So therefore I am still confused on why you posted this in the first place.

tptk nope 2 pair.

Corey

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01-13-2005, 06:57 PM

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Not everyone chooses to play the same way. Take some notes, move on.

dalecooper

01-13-2005, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Corey

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kodibear554 shows [ Kd, As ] two pairs, aces and kings

I repeat again, read your own post before you post.

No reason to get snippy - especially when you're wrong. He hit that two pair on the river. I said if the river card had been a 4, it would have been a lesson - that card can't be both a four and a king. If it's a four, I have two pair and he doesn't.

Corey

01-13-2005, 07:01 PM

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wasnt snippy chief just proving my point.

better luck next time. im pretty sure you got your money back on later hands.

sorry if i was but youll get over it. 8-)

Corey

dalecooper

01-13-2005, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by allLiving

Not everyone chooses to play the same way. Take some notes, move on.

True enough, and like I said it doesn't bother me at all that he played it that way. Frankly I hope I play a lot more with this guy. Later on he slowplayed pocket queens, let me limp in with K10, and I won the pot when a king came down. The way he chooses to play is living very dangerously - unless you just don't care about getting paid for your premium hands.

dalecooper

01-13-2005, 07:03 PM

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By the way, I feel I should clarify that this is not a bad beat post. I'm not looking for sympathy or commiseration in any way. Just pointing out that some people out there are playing so far outside of "textbook" that the book may as well not exist. Keep it in mind when you're out there betting that top pair you think is good. And if you run into this particular guy, you might be able to take his money with all kinds of drawing hands.

Corey

01-13-2005, 07:06 PM

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dale,

my fualt and I apologized didnt read your whole post.

good thing you did lose less money on that though. coulda hurt more.

should have folded the river.

plus it looks like you did pretty good against him later

Corey

dalecooper

01-13-2005, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Corey

should have folded the river.

I thought about it, mainly because I thought he might have been holding out for the flush. I considered it for several seconds and concluded that he had some hand with a king in it. I was right, but I wasn't expecting to see his little friend the ace. Very surprising.

These kinds of hands don't bother me at all, mind you - I just find them very curious, like an marine biologist finding a mutant species of sea snails. It makes me say things like, "Fascinating!" to myself.

Penneywize

01-14-2005, 03:26 AM

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You know, the way he was betting I probably woulda thought he had some pair, 7 or J and a backdoor flush draw. AK though that's just funny. I think you did the right thing by calling him. Such a small bet screams 'please call me I got nothing and I'm trying to be friendly'. I guess he was afraid of the flush though, after all he did make it cheap for you to catch it if you had the cards.

His non-bet on the flop is just a puzzler.

Waggho

01-14-2005, 08:31 PM

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I´ve had several guys at my tables playing exactly this way. It´s sick. Problem is, they are dangerous to play against before you figure them out. You think "hell, he has nothing" and call those river raises, or even reraise them. As soon as I see this I typ SLOWPLAYER with capital letters in the notes. After that it´s like stealing candy from a child.

ectomorph

01-21-2005, 01:24 PM

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I would fold the river, as he could have made a straight on the turn. But it was a cheap enough call I suppose. Sometimes I pay off the small pots like that for the information more than anything else. Things like that make you want to play K10 against him for a chance to beat his big pair and get paid off.

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