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Laeelin
Old 09-02-2005, 09:53 PM     Post subject: Sometimes your the shark... sometimes you the fish... #1 (permalink)  
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$100 NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, September 02, 17:43:00 EDT 2005
Table Table 36895 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: pokerninja05 ( $118.60 )
Seat 4: Stormdogg ( $96.40 )
Seat 5: Casanova_Fly ( $116.65 )
Seat 7: Dominic8822 ( $65.45 )
Seat 8: Hovagubben ( $129.05 )
Seat 9: Laeelin ( $110.20 )
Seat 10: engbulldog ( $106.62 )
Seat 6: EEnergia ( $36.85 )
Seat 1: KillBill11 ( $100 )
Seat 3: Kowskie ( $90.90 )
Hovagubben posts small blind [$0.50].
Laeelin posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Laeelin [ Kd Kh ]
engbulldog folds.
KillBill11 folds.
pokerninja05 folds.
Kowskie folds.
Stormdogg folds.
Casanova_Fly folds.
EEnergia folds.
Dominic8822 folds.
>You have options at Table 36602 Table!.
Hovagubben calls [$0.50].
Laeelin checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, 7s, 3s ]
>You have options at Table 37102 Table!.
Hovagubben bets [$1].
>You have options at Table 37102 Table!.
Laeelin raises [$4].
Hovagubben is all-In [$127.05]
>You have options at Table 37102 Table!.
Casanova_Fly: lol
Laeelin: ouch
>You have options at Table 36776 Table!.
Casanova_Fly: battle of the blinds
Laeelin: KK
Laeelin is all-In [$105.20]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
Laeelin shows [ Kd, Kh ] a pair of kings.
Hovagubben shows [ 3d, 3c ] three of a kind, threes.
Hovagubben wins $18.85 from side pot #1 with three of a kind, threes.
Hovagubben wins $217.40 from the main pot with three of a kind, threes.

I'm was thinking he was bluffing a flush draw or TPTK...

Why oh Why did I call?????

ps: lol, just realised I didnt raise preflop.. not sure how that happened, I always raise with KK..

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Old 09-03-2005, 11:34 AM #2 (permalink)  
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well yeh.. raise preflop.. as you said..

as you didnt raise though, small pairs limp, and what is going to reraise a raise like that besides set or better.. or 2pair or better if he's a bit crazy.. So unless you've noticed that he's completely stupid then yeh, bad call.
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Old 09-03-2005, 08:37 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Pretty sure AQ raises pf when folded around to. Unless you had a read that nailed him as a huge maniac, thats a frustrating fold.

When faced with tough, big, stack-changing decisions, I think it's always a great idea to take a little time and figure out what the bets are saying to you. The $1 bet says that Villain has something, I doubt he would want to invest any more money into a tiny pot if he was completely dead in the water. Your raise definitely communicates to him "I've got something, too." When he goes all-in, you could put it as a bluff, but would someone who could have just check/folded really want to risk his stack on a tiny pot that he has only put $1.50 voluntarily into? It sucks folding KK on a Q-high flop, but here you have to.
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Old 09-03-2005, 10:13 PM     Post subject: Easy fold #4 (permalink)  
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1)Raise preflop.

2)Flop is an easy fold.Why else would he move all in unless he had two pair or a set?He trapped you plain and simple and went laughing to the bankroll while you had to drag your feet to the box to reload.Next time someone pushes off the flop and all you have is an overpair you need to fold.
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Old 09-03-2005, 10:36 PM     Post subject: Re: Easy fold #5 (permalink)  
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1)Raise preflop.

2)Flop is an easy fold.Why else would he move all in unless he had two pair or a set?He trapped you plain and simple and went laughing to the bankroll while you had to drag your feet to the box to reload.Next time someone pushes off the flop and all you have is an overpair you need to fold.
2. At low limits these days, I think this is true. Which sucks balls for you guys. I remember the good old days when bad players would push with shit, call with shit and have fun doing it.

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Old 09-04-2005, 03:23 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 i think most of us have made this mistake once. You get confused because for a split second your instincts are telling you that you're ahead, and in that split second of irrationality the link between good read and prudence is broken. It came when i was tilting once with AK after flopping an ace. When I raised and he went all in, I was like a zombie, autocalling to watch the set of 2's bust me. Thank god i've sorted that problem out.

BTW, raising KK here is only to build the pot. depending on read, isn't there more value in trapping the opponent by just calling? You obviously don't want to just pick up the blinds if he folds. if you're HU the caller will often call the extra 2 or 3 dollars anyway at this level, giving you less of an accurate read.
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Old 09-05-2005, 03:45 AM     Post subject: Raise always #7 (permalink)  
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isn't there more value in trapping the opponent by just calling?
This is a very fatal mistake in a non-late tourney situation.Don't be fancy with Rockets or Cowboys in a full low limit ring game;you will only give the speculative hands a cheap look at the flop and when you think you're trapping you'll be the one being trapped.
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Old 09-05-2005, 07:44 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Old 09-05-2005, 05:24 PM #9 (permalink)  
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i think most of us have made this mistake once
Once?! Hahahaha
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Old 09-05-2005, 09:27 PM #10 (permalink)  

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You didn't have much invested, why take such a risk? Raiser is in the BB, he could have a set or two pair. Granted, he played the hand a bit odd, but I wouldn't take such a risk.
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