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erstad21bnrs
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06-08-2007, 02:07 PM
Post subject: Some questions with KK at 10 NL
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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SB is very tight, 14/4 over 120 hands.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)
MP1 ($4.55)
MP2 ($10.35)
CO ($6.85)
Hero ($9.45)
SB ($8.90)
BB ($3.70)
UTG ($12.05)
UTG+1 ($3.25)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K , K .
4 folds, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.5, SB raises to $1.70, 1 fold, CO folds, Hero calls $1.20.
Flop: ($3.60) 2 , 8 , Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero...?
First of all, at these limits do you guys usually push or just call PF?
On the flop I have an overpair and a draw to the 2nd nuts... but considering villain's tight range, I think I'm behind here a fair amount. I haven't seen him slowplay a hand yet, so what's the standard move here? Pot the flop, fold to a push, and then c/c the rest of the way unless I hit?
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Ash256
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: UK
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I really like the preflop call vs. a 14/4. IMO, you're not getting away on this flop.. And we're only gonna get our opponent to fold if he's got black kings (QQ has setted and nobody ever folds AA), so I feel we should check behind and see a turn card, although it's fucking debatable.
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dmg7
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Straight
Join Date: Mar 2007
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check it and push a none heart turn card.
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Sheetah
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Flush
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 278
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by dmg7
check it and push a none heart turn card.
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Why would he do that?
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mixchange
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Francisco, CA
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If you pot the flop, I think you have to call a push.
How much have you been raising? Does villain respect your range? Could villain only be holding QQ, KK, AA in your eyes? What about JJ or suited AK?
vs. non heart AA you are a 57/42 dog
vs. heart AA you are 93/7
vs. QQ you are 66/33
His check looks trappy. I doubt non-heart AA checks here, so either he has a monster or he's holding JJ. I think betting here would only get you into trouble and fold worse hands, so I check and re-evaluate turn. But I side with monster here, due to his check. Proceed very cautiously, I think he needs a strong hand to be able to check that flop.
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