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Bmxicle
Old 05-16-2005, 08:04 AM     Post subject: some more garbage to critique #1 (permalink)  
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I pretty much only beat a fullout bluff here imo, or a really aggro QQ/JJ/TT, and with this opponent i don't think they would bet that.

POKERSTARS GAME #1706099413: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/05/15 - 22:37:39 (ET)
Table 'Mirphak' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: eagleclaw7 ($51.60 in chips)
Seat 2: cakewalker ($65.95 in chips)
Seat 3: Ann Hopkin ($148.65 in chips)
Seat 4: Huzz81 ($70.75 in chips)
Seat 5: RUBOSWORLD ($52.50 in chips)
Seat 6: DJ007 ($61 in chips)
Seat 7: MDSK ($98.25 in chips)
Seat 8: Zooman_723 ($62.60 in chips)
Seat 9: Bmxicle ($186.70 in chips)
RUBOSWORLD: posts small blind $0.50
DJ007: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bmxicle [As Ac]
MDSK: folds
Zooman_723: folds
DJ007 said, "well 11 then heh"
Bmxicle: raises $2 to $3
eagleclaw7: calls $3
cakewalker: folds
Ann Hopkin: calls $3
Huzz81: calls $3
RUBOSWORLD: folds
DJ007: folds
*** FLOP *** [9h Ks 5h]
Bmxicle: bets $13
eagleclaw7: folds
Ann Hopkin: calls $13
Huzz81: folds
*** TURN *** [9h Ks 5h] [Ts]
Bmxicle: bets $31
Ann Hopkin: calls $31
*** RIVER *** [9h Ks 5h Ts] [Kc]
Bmxicle: checks
Ann Hopkin: bets $84
Huzz81 said, "AA....uh oh"
Bmxicle: folds
Ann Hopkin collected $98.50 from pot
Ann Hopkin: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $101.50 | Rake $3
Board [9h Ks 5h Ts Kc]
Seat 1: eagleclaw7 folded on the Flop
Seat 2: cakewalker folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Ann Hopkin collected ($98.50)
Seat 4: Huzz81 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: RUBOSWORLD (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: DJ007 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: MDSK folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Zooman_723 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Bmxicle folded on the River

Probably should've just checked behind here, both opponents were quite loose passive. Getting smooth called is something i have a hell of a time with. When you have a hand like JJ with overs or a Missed AK, what do you generally do when you get called?

POKERSTARS GAME #1706632152: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2005/05/15 - 23:51:03 (ET)
Table 'Strackea' Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: jdzito75 ($94.15 in chips)
Seat 2: Wmikey ($52.25 in chips)
Seat 3: FirePup ($98 in chips)
Seat 4: pokerfun2005 ($173.15 in chips)
Seat 5: kykkomagi ($99.50 in chips)
Seat 6: Bmxicle ($95.45 in chips)
Seat 7: moneymaker66 ($74.45 in chips)
Seat 8: BUBB111 ($42.95 in chips)
Seat 9: jwscpcu ($43.75 in chips)
moneymaker66: posts small blind $0.50
BUBB111: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bmxicle [Jh Jd]
jwscpcu: folds
jdzito75: folds
Wmikey: calls $1
FirePup: folds
pokerfun2005: calls $1
kykkomagi: folds
Bmxicle: raises $4 to $5
moneymaker66: folds
BUBB111: calls $4
Wmikey: folds
pokerfun2005: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [Ac 7h 6d]
BUBB111: checks
pokerfun2005: checks
Bmxicle: bets $12
BUBB111: folds
pokerfun2005: calls $12
*** TURN *** [Ac 7h 6d] [6c]
pokerfun2005: checks
Bmxicle: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ac 7h 6d 6c] [3c]
pokerfun2005: bets $15
Bmxicle: folds
pokerfun2005 collected $38.55 from pot
pokerfun2005: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $40.50 | Rake $1.95
Board [Ac 7h 6d 6c 3c]
Seat 1: jdzito75 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Wmikey folded before Flop
Seat 3: FirePup folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: pokerfun2005 collected ($38.55)
Seat 5: kykkomagi folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Bmxicle (button) folded on the River
Seat 7: moneymaker66 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: BUBB111 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: jwscpcu folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Another example of me just being called, and then having no idea what to do.

***** Hand History for Game 2049643533 *****
$100 NL Hold'em - Saturday, May 14, 19:51:01 EDT 2005
Table Table 37102 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: HQL888 ( $71.78 )
Seat 3: djbfx3 ( $182.9 )
Seat 6: kuno2001 ( $108.15 )
Seat 2: bmxicle1 ( $111.85 )
Seat 7: Mr_Roboto21 ( $92.59 )
Seat 10: UnclePaul4 ( $89.92 )
Seat 9: SlappyLopez ( $95 )
Seat 4: vegasvargas ( $89.5 )
Seat 8: raoulduke7 ( $97.5 )
Seat 5: cobbob ( $122.05 )
kuno2001 posts small blind [$0.5].
Mr_Roboto21 posts big blind [$1].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to bmxicle1 [ As Ks ]
raoulduke7 folds.
SlappyLopez calls [$1].
UnclePaul4 folds.
>You have options at Table 37039 Table!.
HQL888 folds.
bmxicle1 raises [$4].
djbfx3 folds.
vegasvargas folds.
cobbob folds.
kuno2001 folds.
Mr_Roboto21 folds.
SlappyLopez calls [$3].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4d, 9h, 8h ]
SlappyLopez checks.
bmxicle1 bets [$8].
SlappyLopez calls [$8].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9d ]
SlappyLopez checks.
bmxicle1 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
SlappyLopez bets [$15].
bmxicle1 folds.
SlappyLopez does not show cards.
 
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Old 05-16-2005, 08:53 AM #2 (permalink)  
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No easy answers. The only suggestion I'll make is to play with a 4xBB opener and see if you like what it does for you.

In the last hand I would probably fire again on the turn to set-up a cheap showdown.
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No easy answers. The only suggestion I'll make is to play with a 4xBB opener and see if you like what it does for you.

In the last hand I would probably fire again on the turn to set-up a cheap showdown.
He should only bet on the turn with the intent of getting his opponent to fold. Obviously if he bets on the turn, and there is a showdown (meaning his opponent called), it doesn't matter if it's cheap or not, he's lost the hand.

I usually just give up if my bluff doesn't work on the flop with an unimproved A-K, unless perhaps I have a flush draw.
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He should only bet on the turn with the intent of getting his opponent to fold. Obviously if he bets on the turn, and there is a showdown (meaning his opponent called), it doesn't matter if it's cheap or not, he's lost the hand.
It was heads-up to a very draw heavy flop that paired on the turn. AKo is the best hand here (or catches a clean pair) often enough to want a showdown. I would bet $12, fold to a raise and plan to check behind on any river card. Unless my opponent likes to bluff. In that case, I would check behind on the turn and call any river bet up to the size of the pot.

At 2.6 to 1 I would seriously consider calling that river bet.
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No easy answers. The only suggestion I'll make is to play with a 4xBB opener and see if you like what it does for you.

In the last hand I would probably fire again on the turn to set-up a cheap showdown.
yeah for the AA hand this table had like a 35% vpip, so i should have definately made it 4X bb, whereas on most tables on pokerstars that i play at a 3x bb raise from utg usually gets rid of most limpers.
 
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Old 05-18-2005, 11:28 AM #6 (permalink)  
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whereas on most tables on pokerstars that i play at a 3x bb raise from utg usually gets rid of most limpers.
If 3x from UTG is taking the blinds, I'm almost never limping. 22-99 become easy open-raises.
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