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Blinky
Old 12-17-2005, 01:39 AM     Post subject: Some HHs for the ca$h pros #1 (permalink)  
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Ok, so I'm messin' with cash games again. For your collective review:

No. 1

I should have a pretty LAGGY table image, especially to Brownfrenzy, as the table was 4-handed two hands ago.

BF was pretty LAGGy; other dude just sat down.

PokerStars Game #3352184410: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/12/16 - 20:05:57 (ET)
Table 'Vera III' Seat #9 is the button
Seat 2: cmoist31 ($21.80 in chips)
Seat 3: King_Poly ($25.70 in chips)
Seat 4: Vel007icov ($5.20 in chips)
Seat 5: BrownFrenzy ($31.40 in chips)
Seat 6: dragon9011 ($5.50 in chips)
Seat 7: laurablank ($10 in chips)
Seat 8: Dick Sard ($10 in chips)
Seat 9: Blinky_3eyes ($19.90 in chips)
cmoist31: posts small blind $0.10
King_Poly: posts big blind $0.25
laurablank: posts big blind $0.25
Dick Sard: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Blinky_3eyes [8c 8s]
Vel007icov: calls $0.25
BrownFrenzy: calls $0.25
dragon9011: folds
laurablank: checks
Dick Sard: checks
Blinky_3eyes: raises $1.25 to $1.50
cmoist31: folds
King_Poly: calls $1.25
Vel007icov: folds
BrownFrenzy: calls $1.25
laurablank: folds
Dick Sard: folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 7h Th]
King_Poly: bets $0.25
BrownFrenzy: calls $0.25

I have position; two guys don't feel at all bad about the flop. How much do you bet?

no.2

Player seemed rather weakish. Limped a lot. Do you bet the river? (yeah, I'm pretty sure I f*cked up this hand)

PokerStars Game #3352771662: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2005/12/16 - 21:09:01 (ET)
Table 'Vera III' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: LetsGoCanes ($20.95 in chips)
Seat 2: cmoist31 ($21.65 in chips)
Seat 3: Dante Creed ($14.30 in chips)
Seat 4: ronnieburger ($32.45 in chips)
Seat 5: tomthebadboy ($12.80 in chips)
Seat 6: johnyb41 ($33.90 in chips)
Seat 7: DA_BOLTZNUT ($12.25 in chips)
Seat 8: KiNgPiMp33 ($23.95 in chips)
Seat 9: Blinky_3eyes ($25.80 in chips)
ronnieburger: posts small blind $0.10
tomthebadboy: posts big blind $0.25
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Blinky_3eyes [9c 9d]
johnyb41: folds
DA_BOLTZNUT: folds
KiNgPiMp33: folds
Blinky_3eyes: raises $0.75 to $1
LetsGoCanes: folds
cmoist31: folds
Dante Creed: folds
ronnieburger: folds
tomthebadboy: calls $0.75
*** FLOP *** [2h Ks Js]
tomthebadboy: checks
Blinky_3eyes: checks
*** TURN *** [2h Ks Js] [2d]
tomthebadboy: bets $0.50
Blinky_3eyes: calls $0.50
*** RIVER *** [2h Ks Js 2d] [Jh]
tomthebadboy: checks

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Old 12-17-2005, 01:49 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: 6xbb is kind of a big raise. I make it 3-4xbb. I then bet the pot on the flop.

Hand 2: Preflop is fine. I bet 3/4 pot on the flop and take my free card on the turn if he calls. You wanna keep the lead in the hand.

The way you played it I jsut check behind on the river. There isn't enough money in the pot to worry about it.
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:32 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand 1:

You have a laggy image and check/call the flop. If youve been cont. betting alot this is a mistake and sets off huge alarm bells in my head whenever i see it. If you want to be laggy you need to bet when you hit or you will just be a strong when weak / weak when strong sorta guy and noone wants to be one of those. The other reason you have to bet is because there are 2 hearts and a not unlikely straight draw if any 9 comes (or maybe even made straight).
You are almost certainly ahead now and likely to get a call from anything TPTK and above as well as the draws. I probably bet 3/4 pot (same as most of my cbets), expect a call and see what happens on the turn.
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Old 12-17-2005, 12:48 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I missed the table image aspect of this hand.

An example from my game...

I iso-raise a guy with a couple suited broadways. C-bet an 8 high flop, he tanks for a long time.... min-raises. I fold (looked like too much hollywood at the time) and he shows 98o. BTW, showing was a horrible mistake as it gave me a wealth of information on how he thinks.

Fast forward two orbits later.

I make the same raise with 88, get a lot more callers than I expected. Flop comes down 89T. I c-bet, folded to same guy who pretty quickly min-raises me this time. I push. He tanks...calls with ATo.

At the right table LAgg generates some nice change with all of the small pots you'll pick up. However, the big pay-off is that now you will get unwarrented action on your big hands. A big part of No Limit is getting the other guy to make a really terrible mistake.

If you play aggro you MUST play your big hands fast like 90% of the time. Otherwise you will give a strong when weak, weak when strong read and get destroyed. Plus, you're missing out on half the fun.

Another hand...

Super-aggro min-raises and I call from the SB with 46s. I have $200, aggro has over $400 (most of it won via a 4-way pre-flop all in he busted AA with K8s. Donkest hand I've seen since the old Party $25 50c bb game.)

Flop comes T66.

Aggro makes a silly small bet, shortie pushes for $10ish, I call.

Turn is an Ace.

I lead for $15, aggro calls.

River is a blank

I lead for $30, aggro min-raises and I cry and call. Aggro shows A6o.

I would have gladly played for stacks and he EARNED the right to play for stacks there with his over-aggressive play and taking weak hands too far for way too much money. However, his slow play left a lot of money on the table because the line he took tipped me off to his strength. Yet, he was erratic enough I had to call the river.
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