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Old 11-10-2005, 04:13 AM     Post subject: some hands for your discussion #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars Game #3018983851: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/11/10 - 00:03:27 (ET)
Table 'Desdemona V' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: kyberc ($39.60 in chips)
Seat 2: Kennyy212 ($48.30 in chips)
Seat 3: edudlive ($46.50 in chips)
Seat 4: GMM888 ($11.85 in chips)
Seat 5: So.Cal.Rob ($20.15 in chips)
Seat 6: tsifknits ($84.85 in chips)
edudlive: posts small blind $0.25
GMM888: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to edudlive [Td 8d]
So.Cal.Rob: folds
tsifknits: folds
kyberc: folds
Kennyy212: calls $0.50
edudlive: calls $0.25
GMM888: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ad 9h 7s]
edudlive: checks
GMM888: checks
Kennyy212: checks
*** TURN *** [Ad 9h 7s] [3s]
edudlive: checks
GMM888: checks
Kennyy212: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ad 9h 7s 3s] [Jc]
edudlive: bets $1
GMM888: calls $1
Kennyy212: raises $4 to $5
edudlive: raises $41 to $46 and is all-in
GMM888: folds
Kennyy212: folds
edudlive collected $11.90 from pot
edudlive: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.50 | Rake $0.60
Board [Ad 9h 7s 3s Jc]
Seat 1: kyberc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Kennyy212 (button) folded on the River
Seat 3: edudlive (small blind) collected ($11.90)
Seat 4: GMM888 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 5: So.Cal.Rob folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: tsifknits folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I should have reraised to $10-20 here, not pushed, possibly semi-bluff but I didn't feel like mixing it up at this point.

PokerStars Game #3019010268: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/11/10 - 00:06:12 (ET)
Table 'Desdemona V' Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: kyberc ($41.70 in chips)
Seat 2: Kennyy212 ($42.80 in chips)
Seat 3: edudlive ($52.90 in chips)
Seat 4: GMM888 ($10.10 in chips)
Seat 5: So.Cal.Rob ($19.60 in chips)
Seat 6: tsifknits ($83.35 in chips)
tsifknits: posts small blind $0.25
kyberc: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to edudlive [Jh Js]
Kennyy212: folds
edudlive: raises $1.50 to $2
GMM888: calls $2
So.Cal.Rob: folds
tsifknits: folds
kyberc: raises $4 to $6
edudlive: calls $4
GMM888: calls $4
*** FLOP *** [3c Tc 8h]
kyberc: bets $6
edudlive: raises $9 to $15
GMM888: calls $4.10 and is all-in
kyberc: folds
*** TURN *** [3c Tc 8h] [9s]
*** RIVER *** [3c Tc 8h 9s] [Jc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
edudlive: shows [Jh Js] (three of a kind, Jacks)
edudlive collected $3.60 from side pot
GMM888: mucks hand
edudlive collected $29.10 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $34.35 Main pot $29.10. Side pot $3.60. | Rake $1.65
Board [3c Tc 8h 9s Jc]
Seat 1: kyberc (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Kennyy212 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: edudlive showed [Jh Js] and won ($32.70) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 4: GMM888 mucked [Jd 9d]
Seat 5: So.Cal.Rob (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: tsifknits (small blind) folded before Flop

I put opp that reraised me on missed high cards, and would probably have no choice but to fold on a re-reraise from opp

PokerStars Game #3018956415: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/11/10 - 00:00:36 (ET)
Table 'Procyon' Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: mariners12 ($13.95 in chips)
Seat 2: stallone2 ($8 in chips)
Seat 3: 90 yorker ($14.40 in chips)
Seat 4: edudlive ($50 in chips)
Seat 5: patpatriot99 ($19.90 in chips)
Seat 6: johny679 ($29.30 in chips)
90 yorker: posts small blind $0.25
edudlive: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to edudlive [Ks Ac]
patpatriot99: raises $0.50 to $1
johny679: folds
mariners12: folds
stallone2: folds
90 yorker: calls $0.75
edudlive: calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [4h Kd 6h]
90 yorker: bets $1.50
edudlive: raises $2.50 to $4
patpatriot99: folds
90 yorker: calls $2.50
*** TURN *** [4h Kd 6h] [9d]
90 yorker: checks
edudlive: bets $5
90 yorker: calls $5
*** RIVER *** [4h Kd 6h 9d] [9c]
90 yorker: checks
edudlive: bets $5
90 yorker: calls $4.40 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
edudlive: shows [Ks Ac] (two pair, Kings and Nines)
90 yorker: mucks hand
edudlive collected $28.40 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $29.80 | Rake $1.40
Board [4h Kd 6h 9d 9c]
Seat 1: mariners12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: stallone2 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 90 yorker (small blind) mucked [Ts 6c]
Seat 4: edudlive (big blind) showed [Ks Ac] and won ($28.40) with two pair, Kings and Nines
Seat 5: patpatriot99 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: johny679 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Standard?

PokerStars Game #3019076015: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2005/11/10 - 00:13:14 (ET)
Table 'Procyon' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: mariners12 ($42.10 in chips)
Seat 2: stallone2 ($10.65 in chips)
Seat 3: 90 yorker ($15.40 in chips)
Seat 4: edudlive ($70.50 in chips)
Seat 5: patpatriot99 ($27.35 in chips)
Seat 6: surfsupdanny ($12.50 in chips)
edudlive: posts small blind $0.25
patpatriot99: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to edudlive [As Kd]
surfsupdanny: folds
mariners12: folds
mariners12 leaves the table
stallone2: folds
90 yorker: calls $0.50
edudlive: raises $1.50 to $2
patpatriot99: folds
90 yorker: raises $13.40 to $15.40 and is all-in
edudlive: folds
90 yorker collected $4.50 from pot
90 yorker: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $4.50 | Rake $0
Seat 1: mariners12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: stallone2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 90 yorker (button) collected ($4.50)
Seat 4: edudlive (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: patpatriot99 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: surfsupdanny folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I've showed opp some bluffs and beaten him with a good hand (see above AK) so I wanted to call, but I think I'm behind here more than likely.
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:41 PM #2 (permalink)  
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These look good to me, but is completing from the SB with 1 gap off-suit connectors standard at in your game? That seems like a bad idea to me. I guess you had a read....
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Old 11-10-2005, 03:56 PM #3 (permalink)  
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These look good to me, but is completing from the SB with 1 gap off-suit connectors standard at in your game? That seems like a bad idea to me. I guess you had a read....
I'm playing 6max, if I'm not completing with suited 1-gappers I'm probably losing a lot more money in the long run than I would from completing it (from missing out on profitable situations), thus to minimize my losses I need to complete it.

When I do decide to complete suited 1-gappers, T8s is the lowest I'll complete.

If this is a leak in my game, it probably isn't a huge one, but one I definately need to fix if anyone can show me that its more -EV to complete than to not complete.

EDIT: Just noticed you said offsuit 1-gappers (which usually are a fold) but does the fact that they were suited 1-gappers change your mind about the complete?
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Old 11-10-2005, 04:15 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I'd play them (and I flatter myself that I'm following a similar path to edudlive), but not off-suit in ordinary circumstances.
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Old 11-10-2005, 04:37 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Not such a re-reaise on hand no.1 and they are fine bro. I bump it to 15.
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Old 11-10-2005, 05:18 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I actually like the enormous over bet in hand 1 against weaker opponents.

If you raise to 15 then it's 10 more for him to call. You need him to call that 4x more often than raising to 45. Anyone with a hand good enough to call 10$ more is at least 25% as likely to call 40$ more in my opinion. You guys are all looking at the results here i think more than the play itself.

Hand 2 is fine if GMM guy is passive pre flop. I don't want to wind up in the middle of these two with JJ if he decides to push over.

Hands 3 i want a read on my opponent, UTG min raises are scary because they don't make sense. I probably reraise preflop and let him define his hand more. I don't want to flop TPTK and wind up having to make a difficult decision against a set.

Hand 4 is good.
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Old 11-10-2005, 06:34 PM #7 (permalink)  
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On hand 2 are you talking about GMM pushing preflop or on the flop?

On hand 1 after thinking about it while I realize I could have made more this hand by just reraise but I bet $1 into a $1.75ish pot..for him to reraise that to $5 means he has at least two pair and I would think he is likely to call a lot of the time with that
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