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Old 07-07-2009, 02:57 AM     Post subject: So this is why you dont 3bet with complete rags #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is 15/7. He has a fold to 3bet of 83% over a very large sample

I was contemplating on 2/3rdsing the turn. Thoughts?

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BB ($45.30)
UTG ($23.75)
UTG+1 ($20.70)
MP1 ($35.45)
MP2 ($60.85)
CO ($54.50)
Hero (Button) ($50)
SB ($49.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7, 5
4 folds, CO bets $2, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, CO calls $4

Flop: ($12.75) 6, 7, J (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $7.50, CO calls $7.50

Turn: ($27.75) K (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

River: ($27.75) 3 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $27.75 | Rake: $1.35
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Old 07-07-2009, 04:47 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 How often has he seen you 3bet.

It may not be a good time to pull this based on game flow, depsite the fact you can 3bet ATC.

I don't think I'm cbetting here once he calls, just check it down/hope he sees what you have then tighten your 3bet range up and get paid when you are dealt the nuts.
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How often has he seen you 3bet.
never

when i 3bet light i put a note of the time so i dont accidentally over 3bet them
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 I'd bet the flop harder. That bet might not fold out any of his preflop range. Turn would then be a great card to barrel.
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 Turn card is one of the best 3 cards in the deck to double barrel.


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I would continue on the turn
it would really suck if he had 88-TT on the flop and you didn't let him fold that
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 So the turn is a good card to barrel, what do you guys think about cbetting the flop?
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Preflop I'd fold because despite his fold to 3b we need a hand with better hand strength esp. considering we're unsure what we're even doing postflop.

Flop: he folds to 3bets 83% of the time so when he calls he's likely going to have a good pair and maybe AK. He's also passive so we can get to sd by checking down against AK.

Turn: Bomb it again because TT/QQ/Jx are likely folding.
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