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Old 12-17-2008, 11:59 PM     Post subject: slammedfire in the house 600nl #1 (permalink)  
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 villain is slammedfire, one of the craziest bitches out there. He probably thinks I'm a pretty big nit, and maybe stationy (I am). What do you call with? shove with?

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Preflop: Hero is Button with
UTG raises to $12, 4 folds, Hero calls $12, SB calls $9, 1 fold

Flop: ($42) 2, J, K (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $24, Hero calls $24, 1 fold

Turn: ($90) K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($90) 8 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $54, UTG raises to $200, Hero
 
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:41 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 looks bluffy...

i call with any jack or better

shoving with no less than JJ


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Old 12-18-2008, 11:12 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 i dont get this post, it looks like your hand range is narrow and face-up. It seems like you have something like TT-KT always unless you played your hand bad, which means you are ahead of his bluffs and behind his value range (so shoving will never come into play) in every instance unless he's making a decent metagame play with AJ/QQ. you should be able to answer this question better than us because its just a matter of having a feel for slammed's game, which very few, if any, of us will be able to help you with.
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Old 12-18-2008, 08:42 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 his line is crap because he should know that u should have a tight range and the only legit hand you can b/f is QQ

if he opens a ton from EP then this changes, but if he did that you would mention it

me poasting strat wat???
 
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Old 12-18-2008, 08:50 PM #5 (permalink)  
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i dont get this post, it looks like your hand range is narrow and face-up. It seems like you have something like TT-KT always unless you played your hand bad, which means you are ahead of his bluffs and behind his value range (so shoving will never come into play) in every instance unless he's making a decent metagame play with AJ/QQ. you should be able to answer this question better than us because its just a matter of having a feel for slammed's game, which very few, if any, of us will be able to help you with.
I see what you mean; this hand was a lot more complicated in my head when I posted it. What I guess wasn't clear was do I have to call all hands that I bet for value here (1010, QQ, Jx, KQ/AK/AA rarely)? Also, more interestingly, what hands are good enough to call with to catch a bluff (1010+???) and what do I have to shove with to get him off a better bluff (88-?). In the hand I had A high and ended up shoving
 
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Old 12-18-2008, 09:10 PM #6 (permalink)  
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 How do you have anything but AT/AJ/AQ here?
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:12 PM #7 (permalink)  
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This seems terrible, I'd probably rather call than shove.
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Old 12-19-2008, 06:49 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 i thought of AT/AQ being in your range as well but i decided that you should check with those because of the frequency you get snapped by better and checkraised by worse
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:00 AM #9 (permalink)  
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 just fold your entire range vs him, he has a huge hand

he's not crazy, he's like 13/10 back when i played
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:01 AM #10 (permalink)  
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just fold your entire range vs him, he has a huge hand

he's not crazy, he's like 13/10 back when i played
in my fairly limited experience whenever he makes plays that make no sense he just has the nuts
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