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Old 09-21-2006, 12:08 AM     Post subject: Sizing a nut-raise on the turn - how much? #1 (permalink)  
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Hold'em NL ($0.50/$1) Ring game

Seat 1: MP2 ($134.50 in chips)
Seat 2: CO ($79.25 in chips)
Seat 3: Button ($87.75 in chips)
Seat 4: SB ($101 in chips)
Seat 5: Hero ($155.75 in chips) (BB)
Seat 6: UTG ($48.40 in chips)
Seat 7: UTG+1 ($56.50 in chips)
Seat 8: sits out
Seat 9: UTG+2($40.50 in chips)
Seat 10: MP1 ($55.25 in chips)

SB: posts small blind $0.50
Hero: posts big blind $1

dealt to Hero

UTG: folds
UTG+1: calls $1
UTG+2: calls $1
MP1: folds
MP2: calls $1
CO: calls $1
Button: folds
SB: calls $0.50
Hero: checks

----- FLOP ----- :Jd:

SB: checks
Hero: checks
UTG+1: checks
UTG+2: checks
MP2: checks
CO: bets $6
SB: calls $6
Hero: calls $6
3 folds

----- TURN -----

SB: checks
Hero: checks
CO: bets $10
SB: calls $10
Hero: ?

No good reads. I think I should raise here, but how much? Push and hope someone holds a T? What do they hold?
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Old 09-21-2006, 12:31 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I make it 40, since anything less gives good implied odds.
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Old 09-21-2006, 12:47 AM #3 (permalink)  
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You can also lead the flop and conceal the draw as a possibility. As played, pot sized would be $54, so make it $45-55.
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Old 09-21-2006, 01:39 AM #4 (permalink)  
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i like to push here. that way i dont have to think on the river, many scare cards can come. and a set might call, a T will call, flush draw might call as well.. i also like to reraise (minraise) the flop to juice it up a bit.
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 I pretty much always bet the flop here, and on the turn I may just push because if I raise to like 40 and the bettor calls with his T, the caller has good enough odds to call with his FD
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 raise to 50 o so, no one with a ten is folding and will stack off on any flush free river imo, which leaves only a few cards to kill all your action. If they dont have a ten then meh unlucky.
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raise to 50 o so, no one with a ten is folding and will stack off on any flush free river imo, which leaves only a few cards to kill all your action. If they dont have a ten then meh unlucky.
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So, bet 40-50 to try to pot commit a set for instance? Do you think a set will fold to a push here? I fell that a push will result in two folds and that I need to get more money in the pot with a smaller bet, but at the same there are many cards I fear on the river.

Anyone qualified who could analyse in some detail why a push or a smaller bet is better here?
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Old 09-22-2006, 04:32 PM #8 (permalink)  
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