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Old 04-15-2006, 05:18 PM     Post subject: Is this a situation where I could get away from middle set ? #1 (permalink)  
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If there ever was a situation, this is it, but can I EVER lay this down?

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$200 NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, April 15, 13:07:33 ET 2006
Table Table 98805 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Dr_Fonseca ( $229.70 )
Seat 5: pay___me ( $237.26 )
Seat 4: WildBobAK ( $291.50 )
Seat 10: DestroOnFIRE ( $36.45 )
Seat 3: ferbianco ( $100.85 )
Seat 7: Mauau ( $193 )
Seat 8: CullenCNC1 ( $40.30 )
Seat 9: baggio3ant ( $18 )
Seat 6: gipper88 ( $201.70 )
Seat 2: peace_ofmind ( $200 )
Mauau posts small blind [$1].
CullenCNC1 posts big blind [$2].
peace_ofmind posts big blind [$2].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to WildBobAK [ 5c 5s ]
baggio3ant folds.
>You have options at Table 96223 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 96223 (No DP) Table!.
DestroOnFIRE folds.
Dr_Fonseca folds.
peace_ofmind raises [$4].
ferbianco folds.
>You have options at Table 96223 (No DP) Table!.
WildBobAK calls [$6].
pay___me folds.
gipper88 folds.
Mauau calls [$5].
CullenCNC1 folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 2h, 5h ]
Mauau checks.
peace_ofmind checks.
>You have options at Table 95405 Table!.
>You have options at Table 96223 (No DP) Table!.
>You have options at Table 96223 (No DP) Table!.
WildBobAK bets [$12].
Mauau raises [$37].
peace_ofmind is all-In [$194]
>You have options at Table 96223 (No DP) Table!.
WildBobAK is all-In [$273.50]
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Mauau folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7s ]
** Dealing River ** [ Kh ]
peace_ofmind shows [ Jh, Jd ] three of a kind, jacks.
WildBobAK shows [ 5c, 5s ] three of a kind, fives.
WildBobAK wins $91.50 from side pot #1 with three of a kind, fives.
peace_ofmind wins $442 from the main pot with three of a kind, jacks.
>You have options at Table 96223 (No DP) Table!.
 
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Old 04-15-2006, 05:39 PM #2 (permalink)  
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id call and hope it was one of the other hands that would make this move, wouldn't be too worried about mauau calling. i think AA, KK, AhJh, 22 would all make this play
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Old 04-15-2006, 05:43 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I think AA, KK, AJ all bet the flop, 22 is the only hand i see him doing this with that i beat
 
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Old 04-15-2006, 06:04 PM #4 (permalink)  
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yeah you're right i didnt even see the checks above all that other crap
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Old 04-15-2006, 06:04 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Galapogos is just really niceGalapogos is just really niceGalapogos is just really niceGalapogos is just really niceGalapogos is just really nice
 I think you could have gotten away from this. You obviously have two guys ready to go wild in this pot, a JJ sized preflop bet, and a jack on the flop. If you had some basic reads on these guys I think you could have figured out whether or not to fold this.

HOWEVER, this is me talking like a know-it-all after seeing how the whole thing panned out. I know for sure I would call this too; knowing the whole time that I should be folding it. But I play at 25NL and too many guys are pushing these with flush draws so it pays me. I dunno about your level.

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Old 04-15-2006, 06:07 PM #6 (permalink)  
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a semicolon shouldn't have been used there, "knowing the whole time that i should be folding it" is not an independent clause
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Old 04-15-2006, 06:17 PM #7 (permalink)  
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A comma would have sufficed.
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Old 04-15-2006, 06:19 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 The c/r all-in would give me pause. This is one of those hands where you need to ask "Do I need to get involved?". If villain's an unknown or my read is that he's not the type to push without the nuts then, yeah, I'm probably dropping this (easy to say with results posted though...)



 
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Old 04-15-2006, 06:39 PM #9 (permalink)  
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22 could play this way, slightly less likely with preflop raise. Add donkish AA/KK/AJ, AhKh, 4h3h + a bit of dead money + no specific read = call.
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Old 04-18-2006, 01:04 AM #10 (permalink)  
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I'd lay it down with the stacks this deep;but then again that's me.
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