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Stripclubjunkie
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07-07-2006, 07:26 PM
Post subject: Sick and tired!
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Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
8 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $76.99
UTG+1: $52.45
MP1: $95.46
MP2: $29.50
CO: $42.19
Button: $42
SB: $59.02
Stripclbjnk: $50.95
Pre-flop: (8 players) Stripclbjnk is BB with 9 T
4 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, 2 folds, Stripclbjnk checks.
Flop: K J Q ($1.25, 2 players)
Stripclbjnk checks, CO bets $2, Stripclbjnk calls.
Turn: Q ($5.25, 2 players)
Stripclbjnk checks, CO bets $7, Stripclbjnk raises all-in $48.45, CO calls all-in $32.69.
Uncalled bets: $8.76 returned to Stripclbjnk.
River: T ($84.63, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $84.63)
Results:
Final pot: $84.63
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apunisher
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c/r flop. Look to get it ai on turn, by at least pot commiting urself with a bet. Way too many draws and bad cards for you out there to try to slowplay. Any ten, heart, or card that pairs board is a scare card, some more than others.
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Stripclubjunkie
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He flopped the hardcore nuts on me... Grrrrrrrrr.....
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Fnord
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Soooooooo many turn cards you don't want to see.
I like a c/r. I would go over-the-top for $12 and see if he wants to gamble with us.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by Stripclubjunkie
He flopped the hardcore nuts on me... Grrrrrrrrr.....
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REBUY!
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Stripclubjunkie
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I like a c/r.
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And fold to a shove?
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samsonite2100
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Really, c/r? Why not just bet out and go from there? Isn't check-raising with the nuts a bit strong?
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apunisher
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Originally Posted by samsonite2100
Really, c/r? Why not just bet out and go from there? Isn't check-raising with the nuts a bit strong?
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i would c/r because it gets more money in the pot when we think we are ahead.
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Renton
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Originally Posted by Stripclubjunkie
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I like a c/r.
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And fold to a shove? |
no, if he has AT, then GG. We need to get all the money in against sets, AK, and two pair.
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samsonite2100
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i would c/r because it gets more money in the pot when we think we are ahead.
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It also folds out a lot of hands that might otherwise come along for the ride. Are we that worried about the flush draw or a ten hitting?
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apunisher
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i would c/r because it gets more money in the pot when we think we are ahead.
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It also folds out a lot of hands that might otherwise come along for the ride. Are we that worried about the flush draw or a ten hitting? |
i would be
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Miffed22001
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i would c/r because it gets more money in the pot when we think we are ahead.
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It also folds out a lot of hands that might otherwise come along for the ride. Are we that worried about the flush draw or a ten hitting? |
you wouldnt call a c/r here if you had KQ top two in position?
If you dont lose a stack here you probably didnt play it aggressivly enough at these stakes imo.
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samsonite2100
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you wouldnt call a c/r here if you had KQ top two in position?
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Of course I would. But I would fold Ax, Ahxh, Kx, Qx, as well as a bunch of other shit that I don't play but some people do.
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andy-akb
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Originally Posted by apunisher
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Originally Posted by samsonite2100
Really, c/r? Why not just bet out and go from there? Isn't check-raising with the nuts a bit strong?
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i would c/r because it gets more money in the pot when we think we are ahead. |
In an unraised pot why would we expect somebody to bet? How do we react to an ace of hearts on the turn? Or just an ace? Or a heart?
I think we need to lead this flop here and hope to get the money in as soon as we can, this is a scary board even with our hand, we want to protect our hand and get value from it, we do that by betting especially when we dont know if our opponents will bet.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by andy-akb
In an unraised pot why would we expect somebody to bet?
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I expect a lot of big money hands to bet this flop when checked to, but call if we fire big to play catch-up. Also, we want the money in now. Finally, if this missed him, giving a free card in a nothing pot isn't a big deal.
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a500lbgorilla
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AHHHHH!
Absolutely no reason to slowplay this here. So many hands either hit hard but second best, or have a hard time folding to a raise and peel one off.
talking about the check/call, the first in check is fine.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Originally Posted by Stripclubjunkie
He flopped the hardcore nuts on me... Grrrrrrrrr.....
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get luckier plz
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Originally Posted by Stripclubjunkie
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I like a c/r.
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And fold to a shove? |
WTF NO!
take a few days off from poker, you're delirious.
Maybe you don't realize that you're only beat by one hand.
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
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Originally Posted by samsonite2100
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i would c/r because it gets more money in the pot when we think we are ahead.
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It also folds out a lot of hands that might otherwise come along for the ride. Are we that worried about the flush draw or a ten hitting? |
what hands are you talking about? AQ? AJ? Too many hands dont fear a big pot here and think about how hard AK is gonna find folding to a c/r on the flop. A 10 and im golden!
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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natdang
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If he flopped w/ AT on the flop, then GG, and there goes my stack on the flop
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samsonite2100
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Hey Rilla, nice 4 post. I haven't seen moves like that since Bigboy5540.
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Miffed22001
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If he flopped w/ AT on the flop, then GG, and there goes my stack on the flop
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If you dont get a lot of money in here with the second nuts then
1. You dont play your hand hard enough
2. Your overall bbs/100 rate could be a whole lot higher.
This hand is exactly like saying you shouldnt play a huge pot with 44 on a 422 board because OMG someone might have 22! (in the case im thinking of they did but hey wtf he flopped teh nuts!)
There should still be places in small and perhasp medium stakes poker where you flop certain second best hands in certain situations and go BUSTO no matter what. This is an example imo.
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Halv
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Why do we c/r AI on the turn? I think that Q on the turn is just ugly as it reduces the likely villain holdings that we beat to AK and KJ. I don't think I like to get my chips in the middle on this board, I'm going into cheap showdown mode.
I hope you made a note that he bets more than the pot size with big hands, I for one am going to go back and add that on him. (Yeah, I saw the hand. Looked like nothing was working out for you on that table :P)
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Cocco_Bill
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bet/raise the flop then push all in on any turn but a ten. You have only got 50BB and if he does'nt have some kind of hand on that flop you wont get payed off.
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