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r8ed

09-12-2005, 02:06 AM Post subject: Show one bad hand...

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I purposely went to a table with low money and showed down a crap hand immediately. A couple hands later, I get trips and double up because they think I'm full of it. Well, they probably would have called if I had a full stack, but it may have made his decision easier.

***** Hand History for Game 2696075952 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, September 11, 21:58:02 EDT 2005
Table Table 36788 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 3: Rapidez ( $11 )
Seat 4: goldyfishy ( $60.50 )
Seat 6: penkster ( $25.55 )
Seat 7: NEOOFZOO ( $39.95 )
Seat 8: kemouloud ( $20 )
Seat 9: Schro5 ( $26.25 )
Seat 10: Nick828 ( $25 )
Seat 5: janje ( $6.59 )
Seat 1: RobinYiu ( $33.75 )
Seat 2: SidVeda ( $14.75 )
goldyfishy posts small blind [$0.10].
janje posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to janje [ 7h 7c ]
penkster folds.
NEOOFZOO folds.
kemouloud raises [$0.50].
Schro5 folds.
Nick828 folds.
RobinYiu calls [$0.50].
SidVeda folds.
Rapidez calls [$0.50].
goldyfishy calls [$0.40].
janje calls [$0.25].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, Qs, Jc ]
goldyfishy checks.
janje bets [$1].
kemouloud raises [$2].
RobinYiu folds.
Rapidez folds.
goldyfishy folds.
janje is all-In.
kemouloud calls [$4.09].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
kemouloud shows [ Ah, Qh ] a pair of queens.
janje shows [ 7h, 7c ] three of a kind, sevens.
janje wins $13.98 from the main pot with three of a kind, sevens.

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09-12-2005, 03:04 AM

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EV- play against fish since they call you down anyway

ensign_lee

09-12-2005, 05:20 AM

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To be honest, that was pretty sad. You need to have more money at the table, man. Think about how much more you would have if you'd bought in full.

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bair

09-12-2005, 05:39 AM

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ummm...this had nothing to do with your image, he had TPTK after the flop, and you went all in for a terribly small amount of $4...anyone who folds there is absolutely retarded.

r8ed

09-12-2005, 02:40 PM

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I was multi-tabling and only had that much left in my account after dropping $35 on a previous hand and was on semi-tilt. That explains my low buy-in. But, I doubled this hand then doubled another 10 minutes later to get me over $25.

The point is, TPTK WILL call the raise BECAUSE I bought in low. If I went all-in or possibly bet that amount and had a $25 stack, he may have folded. Would you call that bet if I just joined the table with $25 and had not shown down bad hands previous to this?

biondino

09-12-2005, 02:51 PM

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Yes, if I was a fish who thought TPTK was the nuts and didn't want to be pushed around by some newcomer.

(but equally your trick *might* have made the difference. At 25NL I doubt it, as the decent players will probably require more evidence of your fishiness before commiting a stack to a showdown with you, and the crappy players won't notice.

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09-12-2005, 02:58 PM

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I always reload when i get below like 75% of the buy in just for this reason.

If you had a full stack you probably could have gotten a good amount of it in by the turn/river either way. He's basically drawing dead with TPTK besides runner runner boats that beat yours. Sure he may have folded if you pushed the flop...But you almost definitely could have gotten that same 4$ in on the flop and had a stack left to put more in with on the turn/river. If a random 25NL player is willing to call a 4$ bet on the flop with TPTK he's willing to do it whether you're sitting on a stack or it's your all-in. They don't have the forsight to say "Well if i call this how much more am i gonna have to pay on the turn/river to show this down?" They just think "Gawlee, top pair with an ace kicker, i call and raise you all day!"

Bottom line you definitely could have gotten more in with a bigger stack.

bair

09-12-2005, 09:00 PM

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if you had a bigger stack you would have gotten more, not less. could have reraised the flop, bet the turn, bet the river, and probably would have been called on every street.

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