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Old 07-25-2007, 11:48 PM     Post subject: shove pre? #1 (permalink)  
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Unknown villains... one shorty, one fullstacked. I guess I should have just shoved over MP2, the shorty?

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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with J J
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 raises to $1, MP3 calls, Hero raises to $6, 4 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 raises all-in $20.2, MP3 folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: 6 3 6 ($62.85, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $62.85)
MP1 is all-in $30.25, Hero calls all-in $29.8.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:11 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Yes. Galapagos posted some insightful stuff about this type of thing in one of my threads a while back, but I'm not about to look for it.

Basically, if you think you have the aggressive guy beat then you likely have the passive guy beat as well, and you should capitalize on that by their tendencenies to play bad in RR pots.

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I'm euphoricism on stars -- but i dont play there. Im on FTP.
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Old 07-28-2007, 05:04 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I don't like the cold call preflop..With MP1 just calling the raise I'm not putting him on a monster and our JJ is def ahead of our range. By calling 40BB are we going to fold to a flop push if overcards fall? I just push here, isolating the shortstack and MP1 has already show a lot of intrest in sticking around in this pot with 2 calls.

as played we have to call..we got a near perfect flop for our hand..(besides set obv). I would put MP1 on 9 9 here.
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i dont like to shove over pf w/ JJ in RRed pots...but i aint folding that flop, either. if overs hit, i may fold, but not here.
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 Woah, I didn't notice that was 50nl. For some reason I thought you were playing 100nl so I thought those were short/medium stacks. My advice was meant for a situation like this

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $152.80
BB: $17.15
UTG: $227.25
UTG+1: $33.00
MP1: $86.50
MP2: $64.50
CO: $59.80
Hero (BTN): $148.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt A Q (8 Players)
3 folds, MP2 calls $1.00, CO folds, [color:red]Hero raises to $5.00[/color], SB folds, [color:red]BB raises all-in to $17.15[/color], MP2 calls $16.15, [color:red]Hero raises all-in to $148.45[/color], MP2 calls all-in for $47.35
Uncalled bet of $83.95 returned to Hero

Flop: ($146.65) T 8 6 (3 Players - 3 All-In)

Turn: ($146.65) A (3 Players - 3 All-In)

River: ($146.65) 6 (3 Players - 3 All-In)

Pot Size: $146.65 ($3 Rake)

BB had J J and LOST (-$17.15)
MP2 had J Q (a pair of Sixes) and LOST (-$64.50)
Hero had A Q (two pair, Aces and Sixes) and WON (+$79.15)
 
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