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Ugly Ed

11-26-2005, 12:56 PM Post subject: Should I make calls like this?

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Heres a couple hands I mb should have called or they were nice folds let me know what you think. The 1st hand was against a real loose player. I had taken a nice pot from him a few hands before. The 2nd hand I folded after the flop, but would have won after seeing the rest of the board. I folded to a pretty big bet cause I am tired of losing good starting hands, cause the board doesnt hit for me. I have lost alot of hands like this even pairing the A on the flop, to a set. The size of his bet made me think he had a set, plus I was on a draw to any pair anyway. It is upsetting to fold a hand when you find out you would have won a pretty nice pot. If I made the right decision though I'd feel a little better. Did I do the right thing?

Game #1114699952 - (blinds $0.50/$1) No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2005/11/26-07:24:31.1 (CST)
Table "Majuro" (real money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: dodator ($96.00 in chips)
Seat 2: Ugly Ed ($67.25 in chips)
Seat 3: BTenutz ($34.75 in chips)
Seat 5: BaronJim ($169.25 in chips)
Seat 6: ScottyNicole ($31.50 in chips)
Seat 7: kpeezzy ($47.00 in chips)
Seat 8: Silver1 ($146.50 in chips)
Seat 9: ironmanap ($72.00 in chips)
Seat 10: ParmaKid ($66.75 in chips)
ScottyNicole: Post Small Blind ($0.50)
kpeezzy : Post Big Blind ($1)
Dealing...
Dealt to Ugly Ed [ Qd ]
Dealt to Ugly Ed [ Ac ]
Silver1 : Fold
ironmanap: Fold
ParmaKid: Call ($1)
dodator : Call ($1)
Ugly Ed : Call ($1)
BTenutz : Call ($1)
BaronJim: Raise ($4)
ScottyNicole: Fold
kpeezzy : Fold
ParmaKid: Call ($3)
dodator : Fold
Ugly Ed said, "Jim raised cause we all called"
Ugly Ed : Call ($3)
BTenutz : Call ($3)
*** FLOP *** : [ 5c 3c 8c ]
ParmaKid: Check
Ugly Ed : Check
BTenutz : Check
BaronJim: Bet ($20)
ParmaKid: Fold
Ugly Ed : Fold
BTenutz : Fold
BaronJim: Winner -- doesn't show cards
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $17.75 | Rake: $0.75
Board: [ 5c 3c 8c ]
dodator lost $1 (folded)
Ugly Ed lost $4 (folded) [ Qd Ac ] (high card ace)
BTenutz lost $4 (folded)
Puggs 7 didn't bet
BaronJim bet $24, collected $37.75, net +$13.75
ScottyNicole lost $0.50 (folded)
kpeezzy lost $1 (folded)
Silver1 didn't bet (folded)
ironmanap didn't bet (folded)
ParmaKid lost $4 (folded)
-----------------------------------------------------
Game #1114710972 - (blinds $0.50/$1) No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2005/11/26-07:39:09.9 (CST)
Table "Majuro" (real money) -- Seat 10 is the button
Seat 1: Blufftrash ($99.00 in chips)
Seat 2: Ugly Ed ($57.75 in chips)
Seat 3: S0fi3r0 ($30.50 in chips)
Seat 4: Puggs 7 ($131.75 in chips)
Seat 5: BaronJim ($86.25 in chips)
Seat 6: ScottyNicole ($62.50 in chips)
Seat 7: kpeezzy ($65.50 in chips)
Seat 8: Silver1 ($145.00 in chips)
Seat 9: ironmanap ($68.25 in chips)
Seat 10: ParmaKid ($108.25 in chips)
Blufftrash: Post Small Blind ($0.50)
Ugly Ed : Post Big Blind ($1)
Dealing...
Dealt to Ugly Ed [ Ac ]
Dealt to Ugly Ed [ Kc ]
ironmanap said, "give it a try"
S0fi3r0 : Raise ($4)
Puggs 7 : Call ($4)
BaronJim: Fold
ScottyNicole: Fold
kpeezzy : Fold
ParmaKid said, "jacks"
Silver1 : Fold
ironmanap said, "nb"
ironmanap: Fold
ironmanap said, "i had an ace"
ParmaKid said, "didnt put u on a"
ParmaKid: Fold
ironmanap said, "i shoudl have reraised harder"
Blufftrash: Fold
Ugly Ed : Call ($3)
*** FLOP *** : [ Ts Qh 3h ]
ParmaKid said, "yup"
Ugly Ed : Bet ($4)
S0fi3r0 : Raise ($26.50)
Puggs 7 : Call ($26.50)
ironmanap said, "just knew it woudl become a pissing match if i called or reraised"
ParmaKid said, "i should have raised preflop"
Ugly Ed : Fold
*** TURN *** : [ Ts Qh 3h ] [ Ah ]
*** RIVER *** : [ Ts Qh 3h Ah ] [ 7d ]
ironmanap said, "did not want to get fully involved with that hand"
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $66.50 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Ts Qh 3h Ah 7d ]
Blufftrash lost $0.50 (folded)
Ugly Ed lost $8 (folded) [ Ac Kc ] (a pair of aces)
S0fi3r0 bet $30.50, collected $66.50, net +$36 (showed hand) [ Kd Ks ] (a pair of kings)
Puggs 7 lost $30.50 [ Qs Kh ] (a pair of queens)
BaronJim didn't bet (folded)
ScottyNicole didn't bet (folded)
kpeezzy didn't bet (folded)
Silver1 didn't bet (folded)
ironmanap didn't bet (folded)
ParmaKid didn't bet (folded)

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johnny_fish

11-26-2005, 01:38 PM

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First hand: Raise preflop. Cbet flop, then re-evaluate the turn. Makes decisions easier. As played, a semibluff all-in would be cool. He will fold his overcards and maybe even his overpair. Anyway, you got outs.

Second hand. Don't minbet out of position. Good fold.

Hate

11-26-2005, 04:24 PM

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Flush

Join Date: Jul 2005

Posts: 322

First hand: as said, raise preflop and I definitely would go all-in here if he's not a very tight player
2nd hand: check the flop

TalentedTom

11-26-2005, 11:12 PM

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Location: Toronto

Posts: 289

Jeez you are extremley loose/passive (BIG DONATOR ) Hand #1 raise that baby preflop, on that flop the dude seriously overbet, considering he is the preflop aggresor he probably has an overpair and is seriously protecting his hand, maybe KK or JJ it's a very marginal situation you are either a small favorate against the jacks or slightly behind against the kings, either way your only options here are raise or fold

Hand #2, with AKs I reraise preflop making it $12 to go and pop about 2/3 on the flop. But considering you only called you are uanble to make that play. Also ------NEVER------- gaybet out of position, $4 into a $12 pot when you are first to act is a meaningless bet that accomplishes nothing and will only get you into trouble.

you need to become more AGGRESIVE, do more aggresive bets in relation to the pot, never bet more than 1/2 the pot unless you are value betting the river even then, i say 1/2 is a BEAR minimum.

If you want to see how I personally play the hands you can check it out here: http://www.pokerhand.org/index.php?p...er=TalentedTom

The results are irrelivant just dumb as much money into the pot as you can when you feel you have the best hand, raise very aggresivley, this is the only way to play NL and profit.

Tom.S

lowBoy

11-27-2005, 01:32 AM

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Flush

Join Date: Feb 2005

Posts: 513

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ugly Ed

but would have won after seeing the rest of the board

Stop it!! No more would haves!!

Ugly Ed

11-27-2005, 01:24 PM

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Straight

Join Date: Sep 2005

Posts: 116

Thanks for the advice. I started playing more aggresively. Higher preflop raises etc. It helped alot. I had gotten a little scared from previously making bigger bets preflop, only to not connect anything on the flop. So I started not betting much. After you all assuring me that I NEED to bet my good hands. I felt better about doing it. Even when I didnt connect, I still knew I did the right thing.

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