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IJGrieve
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08-17-2005, 11:30 AM
Post subject: Should I have seen this coming?
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: London, England
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At last I make a set from a pocket pair, but...
FullTiltPoker Game #1870xxxxx: Table Summer Leaf - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:05:30 ET - 2005/08/16
Seat 2: dkkesler ($8.40)
Seat 3: rounder40 ($8.60)
Seat 4: IJGrieve ($15.50)
Seat 5: Flintstone Pip ($20.75)
Seat 6: InTheFade16 ($9.70)
Seat 7: wack35 ($25.70)
Seat 8: darkvenom1972 ($25)
InTheFade16 posts the small blind of $0.10
wack35 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to IJGrieve [9c 9d]
dkkesler calls $0.25
rounder40 calls $0.25
IJGrieve calls $0.25
Flintstone Pip folds
InTheFade16 calls $0.15
wack35 checks
*** FLOP *** [9s 4c Kh]
InTheFade16 checks
wack35 checks
dkkesler checks
rounder40 checks
IJGrieve checks
*** TURN *** [9s 4c Kh] [Js]
InTheFade16 checks
wack35 bets $0.75
dkkesler folds
rounder40 raises to $1.50
IJGrieve raises to $3.50
InTheFade16 folds
wack35 raises to $25.45, and is all in
rounder40 calls $6.85, and is all in
IJGrieve calls $11.75, and is all in
wack35 shows [Qs Td]
rounder40 shows [Qh Ts]
IJGrieve shows [9c 9d]
Uncalled bet of $10.20 returned to wack35
*** RIVER *** [9s 4c Kh Js] [7s]
wack35 shows a straight, King high
IJGrieve shows three of a kind, Nines
wack35 wins the side pot ($13.10) with a straight, King high
rounder40 shows a straight, King high
wack35 ties for the main pot ($12.50) with a straight, King high
rounder40 ties for the main pot ($12.50) with a straight, King high
IJGrieve: unbelievable
IJGrieve is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $40.10 Main pot $26.30. Side pot $13.80. | Rake $2
Board: [9s 4c Kh Js 7s]
Seat 2: dkkesler folded on the Turn
Seat 3: rounder40 showed [Qh Ts] and won ($12.50) with a straight, King high
Seat 4: IJGrieve showed [9c 9d] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 5: Flintstone Pip (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: InTheFade16 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 7: wack35 (big blind) showed [Qs Td] and won ($25.60) with a straight, King high
Seat 8: darkvenom1972 is sitting out
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Fnord
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Stop checking your best hands.
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arkana
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Bet the flop, with 5 people seeing the flop someone is going to have a straight draw. Slowplaying a set is not something you do vs a lot of opponents.
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Fnord
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Originally Posted by arkana
Bet the flop, with 5 people seeing the flop someone is going to have a straight draw.
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You give them too much credit. More like someone will have a piece of the board, or a pocket pair they won't fold or play back at you because your button bet looks like a steal. Many of these folks won't give you as much action if you check the flop.
edit: Or Kx which they're just dying to check/raise or slow play. I think a straight draw often bets this flop anyway if they're at all with the program...
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arkana
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fnord
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Originally Posted by arkana
Bet the flop, with 5 people seeing the flop someone is going to have a straight draw.
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You give them too much credit.
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The probability of a straight draw being out there has nothing to do with the skill of your opponents. TJ, JQ and QT all have straight draws and with 5 people seeing the flop one of those hands is likely to be out there. Giving a free card is not a good idea.
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arkana
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Originally Posted by Fnord
I think a straight draw often bets this flop anyway if they're at all with the program...
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People betting gutshot straight draws in low level NL ring games? You have got to be kidding me.
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outphase
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If you were out of position, checking would be ok, but you are on the button, throw a reasonable bet out there to keep the pairs in, but knock out the draws.
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Originally Posted by lambchopdc
Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.
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wek_sos
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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I agree with arkana, I will always play a set aggressively against a full table. Throw out a bet on the flop to get information, if its big enough you should be able to take down the pot from any drawing hands. The only time I would slow play a set is HU or with 2 opponents and a rainbow board with no connectors.
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IJGrieve
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: London, England
Posts: 27
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Taken. I was too worried they'd all fold and I wouldn't get paid off if I bet, I think.
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There's a highway to the edge
Once a night, you will drive yourself there
At the end of the road you will find the answer
At the end of the road you will drink the fear
(Hall Of Mirrors - The Distillers)
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