Originally Posted by Rabid Dog

Turn 9s - 5d - 7h - Kh

-mike6607- Check
prettu Check
RN92 Bet (1,60)
rabiddog Raise (3,20)
-mike6607- Fold
prettu Fold
RN92 Raise (6,50)

Originally Posted by bdawg56kg

Raise preflop everytime. As played, put in a real raise on the turn, say to $5. If he repops you, either fold or call and hope to showdown cheap. Calling the (1,60) is another option. If villian has air, you give him another chance on the river to bluff you off your hand and at the same time keep the pot size down. You also minimize your losses if he has a set. Plus you have position so you can re-evaluate based on what he does on the river. Your 4-bet (9,80) is horrible. Draws will call all day long, you open up the betting again, and you let the pot size get out of control with a marginal holding.

Originally Posted by bdawg56kg

Okay, starting with preflop, just raise it up 4-5xBB, whatever your standard raise was. ... You are raising $3 into a $15 pot! OESD's and flush draws will call, and you also give better hands a chance to put more money in the pot. You have position on a manaic here, so use it. Generally the rule is when you hold a good but not lock-type hand, and you have a maniac who you suspect might be on a bluff, the correct play is to call.

Originally Posted by Rabid Dog

Turn 9s - 5d - 7h - Kh

-mike6607- Check
prettu Check
RN92 Bet (1,60)
rabiddog Raise (3,20)
-mike6607- Fold
prettu Fold
RN92 Raise (6,50)

Originally Posted by WhiteFingers

I think this is a totally different situation to the one previously when he bet it down to the river and showed you the AQ. In that situation he played the hand very losse passive
In this situation he has got into a rasing war with you on the turn clearly showing an interest in the action i dont think your reads from earlier can be used in this hand as it is played far different. If i had seen him making plays like this before on draws/trash i would play. However he is playing this hand very aggressivly and i think he has TPTK beat.
If he doesn't then this is one of the worst plays ever.

Originally Posted by bdawg56kg

Okay, starting with preflop, just raise it up 4-5xBB, whatever your standard raise was. And the reason a raise to $5 is more effective than a minraise is that it will get you better info on what your opponent has based on how he reacts to the raise, plus it charges draws more to stay in. But against this kind of maniac I suppose it might not matter too much. Anyway, onto the 4-bet. The reason it is not a great play is that it does nothing to help you. You are raising $3 into a $15 pot! OESD's and flush draws will call, and you also give better hands a chance to put more money in the pot. You have position on a manaic here, so use it. Generally the rule is when you hold a good but not lock-type hand, and you have a maniac who you suspect might be on a bluff, the correct play is to call. In the long run, calling in this situation makes you the most when you're ahead and loses the least when behind. Without a read I dump this to the flop 3-bet, but given your read, I would call the 3-bet and let him bluff the river. But if you feel like you might be beat, then dump it. Even maniacs/fish catch hands.