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sarbox68

09-17-2007, 05:33 AM Post subject: Short stack & drawing odds

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So flat called a weak RR from the BB to go 4-way on the flop w/ JJ. SB (the PFRR) leads into me w/ a weak 1/3 PSB.

In the actual hand I R 3x w/ the overpair. You can see all but MP fold, who pushes his last .69 in which I have to call given pot odds.

Here's my question... Aside from the fact that I should probably have raised to $4 to close out drawing odds against MP2 & SB -- was raising the right thing to do? With MP3s stack size, as soon as SB put the $1 in on the flop, if MP3 is on the FD he HAS to call/push AI because he's getting better than the requisite 1.9:1 to draw to the flush.

So once SB has bet, there is nothing I can do to make the odds incorrect for MP3 to call because of his stack size. So if he is drawing to the flush, I'm pretty much just f-d unless I can pull a boat out my @ss by the River... Should all this have affected the way I played this?

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Blinds: $0.05./$0.10.
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $8.49
UTG+1: $4.70
MP1: $19.96
MP2: $9.53
MP3: $4.44
CO: $4.80
Button: $4.25
SB: $14.62
Hero: $8.23

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with J

3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.35, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB raises to $0.75, Hero calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: 2

($3, 4 players)
SB bets $1, Hero raises to $3, MP2 folds, MP3 raises all-in $3.69, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: J

($11.38, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $11.38)

River: A

($11.38, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $11.38)

Results:
Final pot: $11.38

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daven

09-17-2007, 06:33 AM Post subject: Re: Short stack & drawing odds

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sarbox68

if MP3 is on the FD he HAS to call/push AI because he's getting better than the requisite 1.9:1 to draw to the flush.

I'm not convinced this is running through villain's mind. More likely "I'm a shortstack waste of space and have a set/nut flush draw/overpair (you choose) = time to double up!!!!"...

Pre-flop I'm calling, but calling very scared. I figure one of them has QQ-AA or at best (for you) AK. Maybe I'm paranoid.. On the flop, dunno, difficult. I don't think what you did is horrible, but I'm not sure it's how I play it. As played you have to call the extra 69cents.

Here's a thread you should read about tens and jacks....
http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=60380

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