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AFchung
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06-30-2009, 03:21 AM
Post subject: Shipping flop with combo draw
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Villain is unknown
Looking back on this hand, my shove on the flop makes my hand scream ihasadraw. Is there a better bet size than shoving here?
Also, do people play JJ+ this way? I had trouble putting a range into pokerstove because if we put in overpairs then my equity is a bit better
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
saw flop
MP3 ($26.45)
Hero (CO) ($50)
Button ($50)
SB ($29.65)
BB ($109.90)
UTG ($59.80)
UTG+1 ($79.70)
MP1 ($47.25)
MP2 ($50)
Preflop: Hero is CO with 4 , A
5 folds, Hero bets $1.50, Button calls $1.50, 2 folds
Flop: ($3.75) 3 , 10 , 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50, Button raises to $7, Hero raises to $48.50 (All-In), Button calls $41.50 (All-In)
Turn: ($100.75) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)
River: ($100.75) K (2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: $100.75 | Rake: $3
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bigspenda73
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pretty awful way to get the range you crush to call
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AFchung
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
pretty awful way to get the range you crush to call
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1) what bet size would be optimal then? 2.5x his raise?
2) if he flats and turn comes a brick, what's our play?
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this is nowhere near horrible since villain is unknown so we can have fold equity/ domination of worst FDs etc.etc. oop this is a pretty crappy spot and I can't see what else to do since as you rightly point out, raisign smaller can make some turns super tough to play.
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3k post - Return of the blog!
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
pretty awful way to get the range you crush to call
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do you think we can induce a shove from a worse flush draw by threebetting flop to like $18?
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bigspenda73
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well at the very least we give them the option, I told chung I'd make it $17.50
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AFchung
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
well at the very least we give them the option, I told chung I'd make it $17.50
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oh so you were suspenders haha. i was like wth what a silly name who is this guy
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Illfavor
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Originally Posted by AFchung
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
well at the very least we give them the option, I told chung I'd make it $17.50
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oh so you were suspenders haha. i was like wth what a silly name who is this guy
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He's e-fraid of spoons woman, ldo.
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Ich grolle nicht...
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bigspenda73
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it's my pet name, I use it when I'm feeling frisky
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