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drtofu66
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08-31-2006, 04:14 AM
Post subject: Seven hands from tonight
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 595
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******* Hand 1 ********
He instaraised me on the turn. I'm not sure what it meant, but does he call a turn push or do we expect him to push the river for us (I only have $9.90 left after I call his raise) ?
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
8 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $33.25
UTG+1: $32.69
Hero: $24.40
MP2: $25
CO: $22.25
Button: $19.92
SB: $23.25
BB: $22.70
Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is MP1 with 3 3
UTG raises to $0.5, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, 4 folds, BB calls.
Flop: J 5 3 ($1.6, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $1.28, Hero raises to $4, BB folds, UTG calls.
Turn: 3 ($9.6, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5, UTG raises to $10, Hero....
******* Hand 2 ********
Please critique my betting. Standard?
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $5.05
UTG+1: $4.75
MP1: $26
MP2: $11.80
Hero: $27.25
CO: $21.40
Button: $24.25
SB: $3.50
BB: $14.65
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with K A
4 folds, Hero raises to $1, CO folds, Button calls, 2 folds.
Flop: K 9 7 ($2.35, 2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, Button calls.
Turn: 8 ($4.85, 2 players)
Hero bets $3, Button calls.
River: 7 ($10.85, 2 players)
Hero bets $5, Button calls.
Results:
Final pot: $20.85
******* Hand 3 ********
Standard? I couldn't see him calling more than a PSB on the river.
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $24
UTG+1: $24.65
MP1: $6.65
MP2: $24
MP3: $23.35
CO: $25.15
Button: $20.80
SB: $25.55
Hero: $27.70
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 4 5
2 folds, MP1 calls, 4 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.
Flop: A 2 3 ($0.75, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.5, MP1 calls, SB calls.
Turn: Q ($2.25, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.75, MP1 folds, SB calls.
River: 9 ($5.75, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.5, SB calls.
Results:
Final pot: $16.75
******* Hand 4 ********
Too much-- or just right?
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
10 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $64.08
UTG+1: $16.65
UTG+2: $27.09
MP1: $24.11
MP2: $53.07
Hero: $27.20
CO: $29.45
Button: $17.40
SB: $7.50
BB: $24.10
Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP3 with A A
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $1.5, 4 folds, UTG calls, MP1 folds.
Flop: 5 Q 6 ($3.6, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.5, UTG raises to $5, Hero raises to $15, UTG folds.
Uncalled bets: $10 returned to Hero.
Results:
Final pot: $13.6
******* Hand 5 ********
UTG's donkraise ruined this for me and made my hand painfully apparent. Any better lines? Better to smoothcall UTG's donk turn bet (but I can't build much of a pot if I do)?
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
10 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $39.58
UTG+1: $7.70
UTG+2: $24.65
Hero: $27.05
MP2: $11.73
MP3: $14.24
CO: $5.39
Button: $55.30
SB: $12.12
BB: $24.45
Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is MP1 with 6 6
UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, 3 folds, 3 folds, BB checks.
Flop: 6 7 K ($1.1, 4 players)
BB bets $1.25, UTG raises to $2.5, Hero calls, MP3 folds, BB calls.
Turn: 8 ($8.6, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $1, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds.
Uncalled bets: $5 returned to Hero.
Results:
Final pot: $10.6
******* Hand 6 ********
Bloody minraising donks...
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $9.95
UTG+1: $17.70
MP1: $29.98
MP2: $24.75
MP3: $7.70
Hero: $37.45
MP1: $27.05
Button: $31
SB: $20.40
BB: $14.90
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with T 7
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB checks.
Flop: 7 4 T ($1.5, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB raises to $3.5, 4 folds, Hero raises how much?
******* Hand 7 ********
Am I better of just calling his reraise and planning to push the flop?
Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
Converter
Stack sizes:
UTG: $24.27
UTG+1: $25
Hero: $27.05
Hero: $21.05
MP2: $28.18
MP3: $25.35
CO: $29.60
Button: $50.70
SB: $3.83
BB: $49.30
Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with A A
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, MP2 raises to $2.75, 5 folds, Hero raises to $6, MP2 calls.
Flop: 7 6 6 ($12.35, 2 players)
Hero bets $8, MP2 folds.
Uncalled bets: $8 returned to Hero.
Results:
Final pot: $12.35
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TerryToma
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: wisconsin
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1. I re-minraise here. Try to get him to push. He cant fold to your re-minraise, but he may fold if you push. It looks very "fishy" but its ok with quads.
2. standard
3. 1$ on flop.. overbet that pot slightly, most people wont even notice you overbet the pot and just say hey.. its 1$ why not. then it makes the pot bigger on subsequent streets and for you to build for an AI on riv. sometimes a big overbet on the flop in these cases will get a set, TPTK to reraise you. you'd like to get a raise out of one of your oppos so you are easier to ai.
4. fine, might try 12$ instead?.. but seems ok as is
5. Raise preflop! the biggest thing i ever did to my game was raise all pp's from all positions.. it makes your sets sooo much more money.
6. just call, i like to see another card and make sure im safe on the turn, 2pair is quite a vulnerable hand and i hate getting AI with it on the flop. playing this way really cuts down on your variance. unless i know i cracked someone's AA.
7. played perfectly. the reraise is a must preflop. not sure on the perfect size of your reraise, probably 6.5-7$.
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martindcx1e
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,614
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#5 - I raise flop
#6 - C/R in a 6-way pot is kinda scary. You have a good hand. Villain could easily have a set or a worse 2 pair. He could even have JJ here I think. I'd probably raise enough to make his next move AI or fold and I call a push.
#7 - If villain has a tight 3-bet range PF and I know it will be HU a lot of times I like to call his 3-bet and then C/R AI on the flop since he is likely to have an overpair and nits love their overpairs.
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givememyleg
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WHO YA GONNA CALL?!??
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1 - Probably push, calling is okay here too.
2 - Good.
3 - Good.
4 - I'd probably call and lead the turn.
5 - Probably raise the flop... there aren't many draws and it went bet/raise so you can hope someone is married to their K.
6 - I'd probably make it $9 or so to go and call a push. I think a different line you could take would be to just call and re-evaluate on the turn. Reads help here.
7 - I like Martin's line... 3betting definetly is not bad here pf but I like to mix it up a little.
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drtofu66
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 595
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by givememyleg
1 - Probably push, calling is okay here too.
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I'm a little relieved to hear that someone else might smoothcall. Still the worst play in retrospect (and I'm not being results oriented. I just didn't think about what he might have to do something like that. And it was an instaraise, so it's not like he considered his options of smoothcalling or raising based on the size of my bet. Stupid of me for not thinking this through).
I called, expecting him to put me all in on the river ($28 pot, I only have $9.90 left at this point). He checked, I went AI-- and he FOLDED!!!!!!! ARGH!
I should've taken Toma's line of reminraising. Just get more money into the damned pot with the nuts (what's did Sklansky say? "When in doubt, bet more"?). He must've just had AcK and had jack shit on the river so it wasn't worth showing down. He can't fold to a minreraise and probably not even to a push on the turn with a draw like that.
Man, I deserve this latest downswing...
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bode
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Straight Flush
Join Date: May 2006
Location: slow motion
Posts: 4,270
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hand 1 - push
hand 2 - standard
hand 3 - standard value betting
hand 4 - call and lead a non-club turn. i think this will make more money in the long run.
hand 5 - raise the flop.
hand 6 - make it $9 to go
hand 7 - standard
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Flush
Join Date: May 2006
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Maybe push after the flop reraise on hand 5? AK will probably stack off against you there with a safe looking board like that.
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Beck
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Flush
Join Date: Aug 2006
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I am sorry, but I do not have the patience to read through 7 hands at once. I do not know if others agree, but I personally prefer 1 or 2 at a time.
Hand 1: I do not see what you are afraid of? I agree, min raise on that turn, and then bet his stack on the river.
hand 2: looks OK, wish another club popped out for ya.
hand 3: I guess its okay, but I would have bet a bit more on the flop.
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-Beck
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drtofu66
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 595
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Beck
Hand 1: I do not see what you are afraid of? I agree, min raise on that turn, and then bet his stack on the river.
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It was just me overthinking that hand. It should've been obvious that he was repping a big hand with just a naked draw and that a $10 river bet even with 4:1 odds might not be compelling enough for him to call in case he had unimproved AcK or AcQ.
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